PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Trailer23]

You don't understand the feelings of the Chinese people.

It's like a dwarf who is only half a meter tall jumping up and down and scolding you. You won't feel angry, you will just find it funny.

See, now I get you.

Its just the other guy. Dude makes no sense.

Anyways..., back to J-10c...

 

[Yasser76]

See, now I get you.

Its just the other guy. Dude makes no sense.

Anyways..., back to J-10c...

Yeah, always a "translation software" issue when get gets called out....

 

[Michael]

Yeah, always a "translation software" issue when get gets called out....

LOL.

It seems you don't quite understand the Chinese concept of euphemism and think you've caught someone by surprise.

End the small talk and get back to the topic.

 

[Yasser76]

LOL.

It seems you don't quite understand the Chinese concept of euphemism and think you've caught someone by surprise.

End the small talk and get back to the topic.

Pipe down, you went off topic like you do on many threads.

Funny how your "translations" seem to work perfectly when insulting others

 

[Oscar]

It’s rather interesting how arguments change principles when critiquing one sides’s point of view while presenting themselves as completely objective on others.

 

[SABRE]

She's very well-known in China. We're fully aware of her political stance.

Before she traveled to Tianjin, China with Modi, she was an extreme Indian nationalist and a fervent anti-China voice.
After arriving in Tianjin, her rhetoric took a 180-degree turn.
I haven't been following her videos in recent days. I don't know what her current stance is.

But the Chinese people's attitude towards her has never changed. Even with her extreme anti-China stance, we still like her.
Of course, this liking is based on a similar fondness we have for comedians, because her quirky opinions always bring us endless joy.

If she were willing to come to China to work, I guarantee she could become a top internet celebrity in China within 1-2 days. Her annual income could easily exceed 1 billion RMB, or even 10 billion RMB.

Almost entire Indian media took 180 when Modi arrived in China (and after being slapped with tariffs by the US).

 

[RajaBaja]

His "I" comes everywhere. The inferiority complex to somehow bring yourself in everything.

Paliki Sharma must have been so thrilled to meet a keyboard warrior at PDF who has enough time all day 24/7 busy spamming every thread with utter nonsense.


Why is that you are so desperate for recognition.

You know, I have nothing personal against you, but I had enough of it when I see someone gloating with FALSE pride and lying. Passing statements as If you are head of the state. There's an EGO and so much "I" in your posts.

You need to think why there's so much conflict with you even in technical threads? Because, half the time you are fighting with other members, and half the of time you are passing statements without any basis or supporting material.
No one will ever believe a single word from you unless its backed by solid evidence / data / references. and try to attach "In my opinion " in front of your statements.

How do you respond to this? Not everyone here is a fanboy or a keyboard warrior. And definitely don't need to put my intro here. If I was you or may be a new member, what I write, you guys should review it a few times in all honesty and see if anything makes sense to you. If it doesn't, still read it. The few days that I am here, might benefit someone. That's always my goal in life. Always share the knowledge.

For example, in 2 or 3 of my posts yesterday, I mentioned engineering models like the CMM and others. Google those and learn about them. Learning is never wasted. In another post to a Chinese member, I mentioned robotic manufacturing in TSMC. I am almost positive, only less than 5% people cared to google it and read anything on it . That's us Pakistanis. Indians learn whatever is possible very quickly about topics.

One of the main difference between us and Indians is knowledge sharing. We dislike them but they have some good things in their culture. They share knowledge (gayan) with a worship like thinking. It's that important. Us Pakistanis? We hide everything from another Pakistani and do leg pulling.

I've already seen some changes in people's attitude, especially questioning on 5th gen technologies has started vs. 4th gen box that some want us in. That was my goal!

Having traveled the world "a lot", I've noticed one thing, Pakistan produces great talent, but lacks in strategy. We have very few strategists but lots of technical talent including people on this forum.

 

[RajaBaja]

I TOLD YOU Pakistan will build it's own Stealth jet. Hopefully out of PFX. Well Pakistan and Saudia signed a defense pact tonight. I had said in another thread if Saudia signs it, it will build a coalition of Pakistan-Turkey-Saudia and two defense industries will come out of such an agreement, Pakistan and Turkeys.

Thank GOD, he didn't let my information down and it has been signed. Not everyone here is a keyboard warrior, enthusiast or optimist! Some people do know a thing or two. Sometimes we need to allow new comers in and give them room.

 

[m52k85]

Raja tera baja
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khatam

 

[Ak01]

Pakistan gonna build its own stealth jet!

Yet, Pakistan cannot produce:
engines
radars(reliably)
aerospace grade aluminium/steel/titanium or composites
avionics
flight control systems
mission computers
actuators needed
RAM
optical equiptment
datalinks required
and basically anything else required.

what pakistan can do:
fabricate bulkheads out of imported steel
cad mockups for propaganda videos

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pakistan gonna build its own stealth jet!

Yet, Pakistan cannot produce:
engines
radars(reliably)
aerospace grade aluminium/steel/titanium or composites
avionics
flight control systems
mission computers
actuators needed
RAM
optical equiptment
datalinks required
and basically anything else required.

what pakistan can do:
fabricate bulkheads out of imported steel
cad mockups for propaganda videos

Given that Pakistan cannot "even" manufacture the complete airframe of the JF17 itself in Pakistan, i can't see how Pakistan can design, let alone build and certify a new airframe.

 

[Ak01]

Given that Pakistan cannot "even" manufacture the complete airframe of the JF17 itself in Pakistan, i can't see how Pakistan can design, let alone build and certify a new airframe.

bruh forget even manufacturing a complete airframe, the su30mki is more indian than the jf-17 is pakistani...atleast they replaced russian components for local Indian ones. OTOH, we're probably importing the materials even to fabricate parts of the airframe. Heck, the day we can source the raw materials locally is the day ill start taking PAC seriously, otherwise indigenously produced tayara is nothing but cope, PAC is nothing but a final assembly line imo, like india/china is for apple...

 

[RajaBaja]

Pakistan gonna build its own stealth jet!

Yet, Pakistan cannot produce:
engines
radars(reliably)
aerospace grade aluminium/steel/titanium or composites
avionics
flight control systems
mission computers
actuators needed
RAM
optical equiptment
datalinks required
and basically anything else required.

what pakistan can do:
fabricate bulkheads out of imported steel
cad mockups for propaganda videos

Engines are a ten year path now. Full aviation industry will be setup here IA. About a stealth jet, no one said it will happen tomorrow. But with the Saudi defense pact signed, you can be REST ASSURED that 5th gen tech for these 3 Muslim nations is a must.

Check out this thread and find my posts, I had called out all the details about the effects of this agreement on our defense industry this afternoon when the PM's plane was escorted by the F-15's. As I knew what was going to be discussed and hopefully what the Saudis will do.

This is my last post ever addressing you. Learn to give people some respect if they know a thing or two.

R

Post in thread 'Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion'

Sep 17, 2025

The saudis, like the rest of the gulf sheikhs, are finding out their shinny western toys are meaningless against Israel and susceptible to kill-switches. Pakistan has been a security guarantor for these wealthy Shiekhdoms, even though Pakistan hasn’t extracted enough concessions in return.

Moving forward, there’s a high chance these Shiekhdoms plus Egypt will opt for J-35 buoyed by PAF’s strong showing with Chinese weapons against the Indian Air Force and to improve interoperability with Pakistan.

The little I know (it's still not confirmed officially) is that Saudia may be very...

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[Ak01]

Engines are a ten year path now. Full aviation industry will be setup here IA. About a stealth jet, no one said it will happen tomorrow. But with the Saudi defense pact signed, you can be REST ASSURED that 5th gen tech for these 3 Muslim nations is a must.

yeah lets first produce some engines for our missiles that have SFC from the modern era and not the 1970s... then we'll talk about this 10 year path you've made up... deluded

 

[ghazi52]