PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[rafale]

No they will have more to bear down on PAF than before.

I am talking about their air combat jets.

Not drones. That is a separate topic.

Current increase in defence budget indicates that Pakistan will be building a credible drone and counter drone assets along with anti-ALCMs. We already know HQ16 and HQ9 in progress. Some Counter UAS also in progress already.

Also, Unless India were to smooch and cosy up to USA/Trump, chances of them carrying out unilateral action is slim to none till the time Trump is in power.

Trump will literally go bezerk on them. Killing 3xIndian mariners was done on purpose no matter how you frame it or visualize it. That was USA sending a message while negotiations with Iran via Pakistan were nearing final stages.

It was expected that blockade will be lifted soon anyway, so why fire at a merchant marine vessel?
It was on purpose.

Indians are galli keh kuttay and gutter keh keeray, as Shivaji GD Bakshi rightly said.

 

[EgoKaempfer]

In the mid-to-late part of this month, I will be traveling to Chengdu to attend my son's university graduation ceremony. The venue is located very close to the CAC Chengdu headquarters. If time permits, I will invite some friends to join me for tea, conversation, and a meal—perhaps allowing me to learn a bit more. However, if my schedule does not allow for it, I will not go.

Hi @Michael,
I trust your visit to Chengdu was productive. I was curious if you had the chance to reconnect with your friends, and whether you have any updates regarding the status of the J-10C production line at CAIG that you would be at liberty to share.

 

[Yasser76]

It has already been revealed that PAF will expand on J-10CE numbers. If India decided to fly again next year, they would be having less jets in service than they did a year ago.

So PAF is gonna Pace this one out.

This is a good point, with zero new planes delivered and Pal getting more and more JF-17s/J-10Cs, IAF's position right now is worse then 1 year ago (Mind 10 odd shot down planes too!)

 

[Yasser76]

No they will have more to bear down on PAF than before.

How so please?

 

[Michael]

Hi @Michael,
I trust your visit to Chengdu was productive. I was curious if you had the chance to reconnect with your friends, and whether you have any updates regarding the status of the J-10C production line at CAIG that you would be at liberty to share.

I'm sorry. Due to time constraints, I couldn't go to CAC.

However, even if I had gone to CAC, don't expect me to provide any valuable information.

1. China's military industrial enterprise system is extremely large. Each employee only knows their own job description.
2. China's military industrial enterprises have very strict confidentiality regulations. Employees never discuss work-related matters outside the workplace.
3. Even if I learned some non-classified information through casual conversation, I wouldn't easily release it unless it was officially disclosed. Otherwise, I will be sent to prison.

Chinese state media have released a great deal of information, which is far more reliable than rumors.

 

[Desprado123]

I'm sorry. Due to time constraints, I couldn't go to CAC.

However, even if I had gone to CAC, don't expect me to provide any valuable information.

1. China's military industrial enterprise system is extremely large. Each employee only knows their own job description.
2. China's military industrial enterprises have very strict confidentiality regulations. Employees never discuss work-related matters outside the workplace.
3. Even if I learned some non-classified information through casual conversation, I wouldn't easily release it unless it was officially disclosed. Otherwise, I will be sent to prison.

Chinese state media have released a great deal of information, which is far more reliable than rumors.

Sorry for off the topic question. Can you tell is really Pakistan importing Uacv drones from China large quantity after may 2025 which both Indiatoday and Hindustantime reporting.

 

[Michael]

Sorry for off the topic question. Can you tell is really Pakistan importing Uacv drones from China large quantity after may 2025 which both Indiatoday and Hindustantime reporting.

UCAV is a very broad concept. I cannot answer your question.

If it refers to small quadcopters/hexacopters, then your question cannot be verified. Because these types of aircraft have already been widely deployed for civilian use in China, they are essentially "toys," and we cannot obtain accurate information.

If it refers to medium to large fixed-wing UCAVs used in the military, then you should be able to find the answer you're looking for through official information.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

20 examples are not sufficient in number for the next iteration of hostilities with India. Plain and simple.

How did you come to that conclusion?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

No they will have more to bear down on PAF than before.

That was their mistake last time by sending so many fighter aircraft in the air at the same time creating communication challenge with their ground crew.

 

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

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Not again First Qatar and now KSA


I don't believe it unless it comes from third party/neutral sources like Jane's defense weekly/ Aviation week/Flight global etc etc

PAF's only advantages using J-10C in these exercises that J-10C is quite comparable to our F-16s so we can use similar tactics against the enemy that we developed through years using our using F-16s

 

[royalharris]

Not again First Qatar and now KSA


I don't believe it unless it comes from third party/neutral sources like Jane's defense weekly/ Aviation week/Flight global etc etc

PAF's only advantages using J-10C in these exercises that J-10C is quite comparable to our F-16s so we can use similar tactics against the enemy that we developed through years using our using F-16s

Do you think the F16 of Pakistan can deliver the same results?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Do you think the F16 of Pakistan can deliver the same results?

Only difference between our F-16s and our J-10C is radar/Avionics/EW etc etc J-10C has much more advance electronics than our F-16, I'm talking about dimension is quite same and bring our F-16s to V upgrade or newly built F-16 block 70/72 with comparable BVR of PL-15 like AIM-174 they can bring better results than J-10C

 

[royalharris]

Only difference between our F-16s and our J-10C is radar/Avionics/EW etc etc J-10C has much more advance electronics than our F-16, I'm talking about dimension is quite same and bring our F-16s to V upgrade or newly built F-16 block 70/72 with comparable BVR of PL-15 like AIM-174 they can bring better results than J-10C

Forget the "what ifs." Nobody knows if any of that will happen, and even if it does, nobody knows whether it's real. It's all bullshit.
The reality is that even Pakistan's existing, unupgraded F-16s were not permitted by the United States to be used in last year's India–Pakistan air clashes.

In last year's India–Pakistan air conflict, India was almost fully prepared on all fronts. It managed to get support from Europe, the United States, and Russia, but the only one country it could not persuade was China.
Fortunately, Pakistan won. Had Pakistan lost the air battle, it would have suffered a devastating blow.

 

[royalharris]

I've noticed that Pakistanis, Turks, and Iranians seem to share a common trait: they often talk about things in terms of "if," "plans," or "the future" instead of focusing on what actually exists or is happening in reality.