PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[Starlord]

 

[Hussain]

Absolute beauty …. Breathtaking piece of engineering …

Can’t wait to see with a Pakistani flag …

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Well this will have to do for now

 

[Shui]

I feel Indian missile development progress has put us on the back foot.

this is problematic bec. of the lack of strategic depth or depth of strategy!

With enough air power including jets, HALE drone, AWEC combined with ground units like radars and AD systems, missiles shouldn't be a big problem to intercept except hypersonic ones, the problem in Pak's case is less warning times and lack of AD units/radars plus assets in the air are outstretched by overwhelming adversary number.

It can be eased when stealth jets joined the rank as the Indian have to invest huge resources to detect/track and lock, and more aircraft are needed to cover the area to not let it slip through.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

With enough air power including jets, HALE drone, AWEC combined with ground units like radars and AD systems, missiles shouldn't be a big problem to intercept except hypersonic ones, the problem in Pak's case is less warning times and lack of AD units/radars plus assets in the air are outstretched by overwhelming adversary number.

It can be eased when stealth jets joined the rank as the Indian have to invest huge resources to detect/track and lock, and more aircraft are needed to cover the area to not let it slip through.

it is a problem for us bec. they way our map is, we dont have depth in our boundries.

I dont think complete air superiority can solve that, if any thing, hypersonic involvement can make this problem more asymmetric.

it is becoming like a huge downside bet for us, without stronger rocket force, we could be doomed.

if we are not second rocket force (which is unlikely, given our economy) in the region, then, we could be no where at all.

I think, thats the problem

 

[flyingorca]

Hopefully PAF does not get Patwari paint scheme on this beautiful J35. Just keep it the way Chinese have done it with theirs. The pre 1980s paint scheme MUST retire now.

 

[Yasser76]

Hopefully PAF does not get Patwari paint scheme on this beautiful J35. Just keep it the way Chinese have done it with theirs. The pre 1980s paint scheme MUST retire now.

Think PAF will always go for the "Ghost" sheme they so loved on the F-16 we originally got in the 80s. From my understanding we tested this and other schemes and apart from anti-ship/over the water, this was the best scheme.

 

[Michael]

Hopefully PAF does not get Patwari paint scheme on this beautiful J35. Just keep it the way Chinese have done it with theirs. The pre 1980s paint scheme MUST retire now.

Think PAF will always go for the "Ghost" sheme they so loved on the F-16 we originally got in the 80s. From my understanding we tested this and other schemes and apart from anti-ship/over the water, this was the best scheme.

According to publicly available information, China currently possesses three types of stealth coating technologies.

We do not know which stealth coating technology the PAF will ultimately choose, nor do we know if AVIC will offer this option to the PAF.

If the version of stealth coating technology ultimately acquired by the PAF is identical to that used by the PLAAF, then its external appearance should not differ significantly. The scope for modification of this stealth coating technology is very limited.

 

[Yasser76]

According to publicly available information, China currently possesses three types of stealth coating technologies.

We do not know which stealth coating technology the PAF will ultimately choose, nor do we know if AVIC will offer this option to the PAF.

If the version of stealth coating technology ultimately acquired by the PAF is identical to that used by the PLAAF, then its external appearance should not differ significantly. The scope for modification of this stealth coating technology is very limited.

Good point. I noticed all F-35s have same scheme too.

 

[Michael]

Good point. I noticed all F-35s have same scheme too.

In fact, I would recommend that the PAF choose China's first stealth coating technology, the one used on the J-20 fighter jet, rather than the second stealth coating technology, which is currently used on the J-35 series fighter jets.

The first type of stealth coating technology offers less effective stealth capabilities than the second type, but its maintenance is very easy. It doesn't require a specialized climate-controlled hangar or frequent coating maintenance, and there is no significant coating peeling even after prolonged use.

India does not possess advanced anti-stealth radar systems. It will be difficult for them to achieve this goal in the foreseeable future. The first type of stealth coating solution is sufficient to counter India's capabilities.

Therefore, the PAF chose to moderately lower its stealth performance requirements and instead pursue a more economical and efficient solution. Theoretically, this is a better option.

Of course, I'm not sure if AVIC would be willing to provide this solution.

I think many Pakistanis might disagree with my point of view.

 

[Yasser76]

In fact, I would recommend that the PAF choose China's first stealth coating technology, the one used on the J-20 fighter jet, rather than the second stealth coating technology, which is currently used on the J-35 series fighter jets.

The first type of stealth coating technology offers less effective stealth capabilities than the second type, but its maintenance is very easy. It doesn't require a specialized climate-controlled hangar or frequent coating maintenance, and there is no significant coating peeling even after prolonged use.

India does not possess advanced anti-stealth radar systems. It will be difficult for them to achieve this goal in the foreseeable future. The first type of stealth coating solution is sufficient to counter India's capabilities.

Therefore, the PAF chose to moderately lower its stealth performance requirements and instead pursue a more economical and efficient solution. Theoretically, this is a better option.

Of course, I'm not sure if AVIC would be willing to provide this solution.

I think many Pakistanis might disagree with my point of view.

Yes, I think PAF will adapt. Current scheme on most fighters had close air to air combat in mind and made aircraft less visible to the human eye. Obviosuly in a 5th gen scenario that is less of an issue then for 3rd/4th gen

 

[Hussain]

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[Ali_Baba]

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That was the sort of cockpit I was expecting JF17C to come with, given how long it took to develop that variant but i guessed PAF wanted to keep the J10CE, JF17 and JF17C the same, to help with training and cross transferring of people.

 

[flyingorca]

Think PAF will always go for the "Ghost" sheme they so loved on the F-16 we originally got in the 80s. From my understanding we tested this and other schemes and apart from anti-ship/over the water, this was the best scheme.

Even though the name ghost sounds fancy but come on now that paint scheme looks boring.
Just keep it all one grey tone or adopt newer modern paint schemes instead of trying to make your aircrafts look like from 80s era.

 

[Yasser76]

Even though the name ghost sounds fancy but come on now that paint scheme looks boring.
Just keep it all grey or adopt newer modern paint schemes instead of trying to make your aircrafts look like from 80s era.
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Boring it may very well be, but from what I understand PAF did some serious evaluation and even decided to put this scheme in F-7s and Air Defence Mirages. USAF kept it for years. Their requirements are very different from ours though

 

[Oscar]

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Well this will have to do for now

Very low bar and even pointless clickbait for the X post