PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[HH-9A]

Could it be that you are confusing both? So far all naval J-35 are using the WS-21 and only the PLAAF J-35A have the WS-19 …Have you ever seen any J35A equipped with WS19? So far the publicly available photos of all the J35A fighters, including the international demo unit numbered 00001 and revealed recently, indicate J35A are powered by WS21 as well. Please share any photo of WS19 installed in J35A.

Can you share any photo showing J35A powered by WS19? So far all publicly available photos of J35A, including the international demo unit numbered 00001 and revealed recently, show that J35A is powered by WS21

 

[Ali_Baba]

AFAIK, WS-19 is the power plant that offers greater performance, and WS-21 is an older interim solution based on WS-13. The WS-19 took a while to attain full operational robustness.

The naval J-35s are being powered by the WS-19s.

Disappointing that WS-21 instead of WS-19 is powering the J-35AE.

WS-21 is meant to power the naval variant and export variants, and WS-19 for the PLAAF version as per a few post back.

 

[Ibbi32]

How will India respond to Pakistan's J-35A? Like Iran, with more S-400s and BrahMos?

I think they will buy su-57s immediately to bridge the 5th gen gap and make it appear that there is in fact no PAF advantage in stealth, without going into depth of Su-57s stealth,systems and munitions in comparison to j-35A the bigger problem is in thought process. India buys platforms and independent systems, Pakistan buys a thought out integrated kill chain. I garuntee you even today if india somehow buys su-57 or even f-35 first PAF will not make some sort of emergency buy of j-35 to have bragging rights of own 5th gen without first looking into integrating the system into their kill chain and supplementing existing capabilities instead of replacing them

 

[Deino]

AFAIK, WS-19 is the power plant that offers greater performance, and WS-21 is an older interim solution based on WS-13. The WS-19 took a while to attain full operational robustness.

The naval J-35s are being powered by the WS-19s.

Disappointing that WS-21 instead of WS-19 is powering the J-35AE.

No, the naval J-35 at the moment are using the WS-21!

 

[SD 10]

No, the naval J-35 at the moment are using the WS-21!

Is there information regarding power difference between ws 21 and ws 19?

 

[HH-9A]

Is there information regarding power difference between ws 21 and ws 19?

At Singapore airshow, SAC 5th Gen twin J-35 marketed with Guizhou 3rd gen WS-19 with 25000lb [110-115KN] class engine. The powerplant is designed as 3-5-1-1 with high MTBO & additional power for next gen Avionics.

While WS-21 (3-7-1-1) is an F414 grade engine with similar level of thrust around 22000IB, so roughly 1 metric ton thrust less then WS-19.

 

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Didn't get any details from those tweets.

Whats that screenshot of chinese social media is saying? any translation.

Why it says "assuming uae is not the first customer" ? UAE did bought advance chinese L-15 trainer aircrafts few years back. Is that they are referring as a reason for uae possibility / assumption or something else? and what's saudi aramco ads have to do with anything at all ?

 

[Expert]

Call me a war monger or not, but IF PAF can get this fast and induct them fully into our fleet, I for one would want PAF to pre-emptively strike major Indian installations, including missile depots, and if I dare say so, hit their nuclear installations as well before they can induct a platform to tackle J-35. Let's take a leaf out of their fatherland and deal with this filth pre-emptively, because rest assured, they will once they have assets to do so. Considering they are a bigger country with more resources and strategic depth, remaining passive or defensive in nature will hurt us in the future.

They can't even go full fledged against taliban and disarm them let alone doing it against India.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

They can't even go full fledged against taliban and disarm them let alone doing it against India.

True, In india and Pakistan scenario, none of the country can hurt another without severe consequences. That's the status quo of this region.

 

[HH-9A]

Didn't get any details from those tweets.

Whats that screenshot of chinese social media is saying? any translation.

Why it says "assuming uae is not the first customer" ? UAE did bought advance chinese L-15 trainer aircrafts few years back. Is that they are referring as a reason for uae possibility / assumption or something else? and what's saudi aramco ads have to do with anything at all ?

Basically what that Chinese social media says is what I have said in below post in English:

Post in thread 'PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions'
https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/paf-j-35ae-news-updates-and-discussions.29823/post-1264416

 

[alphapak]

Call me a war monger or not, but IF PAF can get this fast and induct them fully into our fleet, I for one would want PAF to pre-emptively strike major Indian installations, including missile depots

Pakistan always waits for Indians to attack first and this time when India attacks
they will launch a bigger attack. I hope these J35's are spread out and hidden.

PAF had the upper hand in 2019 and 2025 but stopped at 2 or 6 jets. The day
India gets the upper hand they will not stop, it will be a disaster like 1971.

 

[alphapak]

I think they will buy su-57s immediately to bridge the 5th gen gap

If India sign the contract this year, then how long will it take them to receive the
first SU 57? How many su 57 Russia make in a year?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

.... PAF had the upper hand in 2019 and 2025 but stopped at 2 or 6 jets. The day
India gets the upper hand they will not stop, it will be a disaster like 1971.

Utter nonsense. Which Pakistani territory 2,000 km away do you envisage getting invaded by India?

 

[Ibbi32]

If India sign the contract this year, then how long will it take them to receive the
first SU 57? How many su 57 Russia make in a year?

I think it depends on how big the order is. Russia has spare capacity for su-57 production but isnt fully committing to producing them due to combination of factors such as cost, effects of sanctions on production and su-57 failing to meet russian specifications in its current state. We know that the indians are also not fully satisfied with the aircraft as it currently exists so they will likely demand several modifications and most importantly local production. As such its hard to predict any number but UAC can probably produce 6-12 airframes per year for india just like they are doing for algeria