PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[Oscar]

If we have nothing positive to say about people who are not in this world anymore, we should avoid saying negative things about them as their matter is with their creator and we have absolutely no clue of their situation. We are humans and all humans make mistakes, May Allah guide us all and have mercy on us all.

Perfectly fine argument unless you agree that people claiming the earth is flat - regardless of their genuine intent should at least be corrected in that "No the earth is indeed not flat" and they were wrong.

 

[ThoroughPro]

Perfectly fine argument unless you agree that people claiming the earth is flat - regardless of their genuine intent should at least be corrected in that "No the earth is indeed not flat" and they were wrong.

Agreed but they should be told that when they are breathing, no use telling it when they can't hear.

 

[Oscar]

Agreed but they should be told that when they are breathing, no use telling it when they can't hear.

They were told that when they were breathing and those that still choose to believe them are being told so they don't believe it anymore.

 

[Michael]

I won't be surprised if the PAF purchases some jets and keep them along with pilots inside China. They can fly home during the time of war.....

Making this assumption is pointless. It will never happen.

This behavior is absolutely prohibited by Chinese law.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The difference between December 2026 and 2027 is one day. @maverick faced alot of criticism to suggest J35 is coming dec 2026, but May 2026 J35 is being built, China has J20 ready for the Usa, J35 to use on aircraft carriers will take years of practise and building tactics, the aircraft carriers are new aswell. If the deal is done Pakistan can easily get just say 10 in December or around March 2027.

I don't think so brother J-20 is in limited in numbers (300+) and facing lot of fronts like India/ South Korea/Japan but you should also remember its expensive fighter to operate/maintain, its operational and maintenance costs is 3-4 times of 4th and 4.5th gen jets and PLAAF want a cheaper replacement of J-10/J-11 series of Jets rather than 100+ million $$$ J-20 and also WS-21 is also not tested in air on it intended platform (J-35) (never heard of It) but tested in ground (bench testing), you want to induct unfinished product by PAF?

 

[Cipher212]

India has more or less only 120 aircraft more than Pakistan (not counting the obsolete jaguars and mig 21s) and with the addition of 40 J35s and this year's 20 Jf17s that gap will be reduced to less than 60 aircraft, but Pakistani kill chain and Electromagnetic spectrum warfare capability is far superior than India's, we've been mastering it for nearly 7 years since 2019 with the Chinese, while India doesn't even know the basics of it.... with the current production rate of 20 Jf17s per year, that gap number gap is also closing fast and in the future, with the steady supply of indeginous + Chinese fighters this gap will never widen again.... regarding your point of contesting and causing damage, how'll they contest when they lost 6-7 of their flagship fighters 150+ km inside their own territory? ... they won't even think of roaming 200km from the border the next time they try any misadventure, they never know which surprises are waiting for them in their own airspace...If anything we'll be contesting their airspace with our stealth aircraft while denying them entry with our 4.5 gen BVR and electronic warfare, if the rumors about KJ500 are true then Indians are beyond f**ked...Now I'm not saying by any means that we can launch a full scale war and hope to win it, I'm just saying that in the event of limited skirmishes like 2019 and 2025, Pakistan will come out even stronger...May was not luck, it was 7 years of honing air warfare tactics with the Chinese...if you say that India will use attrition against us, the point by itself proves that Pakistan will be dominant against India, weaker opponent uses attrition to tire out the stronger one, not the other way around, not to say India is weaker than us but it certainly is not stronger anymore....damn I didn't even put PFX into the picture yet, count that in within the next 10 years... for the first time ever in the history of Subcontinent, India's conventional superiority has been crushed under it's own weight

The funniest thing is, India has the money to procure a shit ton of fighters and outnumber us properly, but each one of their platforms is currently a dead end

Rafale - long waiting line
Su-30 - long waiting line + Russia is shafted
MiG-29 - same story
M2k - Out of Production
Jaguar - Out of Production
Tejas - No engine
Tejas Mk2 - Fantasy
AMCA - Fantasy

40 J-35 will absolutely worry India for a long time, until they do an emergency procurement of Su-57E.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

The funniest thing is, India has the money to procure a shit ton of fighters and outnumber us properly, but each one of their platforms is currently a dead end

Rafale - long waiting line
Su-30 - long waiting line + Russia is shafted
MiG-29 - same story
M2k - Out of Production
Jaguar - Out of Production
Tejas - No engine
Tejas Mk2 - Fantasy
AMCA - Fantasy

40 J-35 will absolutely worry India for a long time, until they do an emergency procurement of Su-57E.

Fighter Co‑Production Offered but rejected by Indian

Fighter	Country	Year Offered	Co‑Production Offered?	Why It Failed
Su‑57 / FGFA	Russia	2007–2010	Full joint development + production in India	IAF withdrew due to cost, design concerns, maturity issues
Rafale (MMRCA)	France	2012–2015	108 aircraft to be built in India	HAL–Dassault disputes, cost escalation, delays
Eurofighter Typhoon	UK/Germany/Italy/Spain	2011–2014	Full production line in India	Rafale selected instead
Gripen‑E	Sweden	2016–2019	Full Make‑in‑India line + design help	US engine export restrictions (F414), IAF preference shift
F‑21 (F‑16 Block 70)	USA	2017–2020	Full production line in India + export potential	IAF rejected F‑16 lineage, tech transfer limits
F/A‑18 Super Hornet	USA	2017–2022	Local assembly option	Rafale‑M chosen for Navy, IAF uninterested
Tejas foreign partnerships	France/Sweden/Israel/Russia	2000–present	Partial tech transfer, avionics, engine help	DRDO–IAF requirement conflicts, limited commitments

Now India is looking for Time machine to travel back to 2011 and sign a deal for local production of EuroFighter.

 

[AeronautIR]

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I walked right into that one.

 

[maxpane]

I walked right into that one.

sir chishti saheb was saying hum ne engine bana lia ha? is he carried away or is there some reality here

 

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[AeronautIR]

sir chishti saheb was saying hum ne engine bana lia ha? is he carried away or is there some reality here

I don't know when he said that but in my opinion, it is still an ongoing project

 

[maxpane]

I don't know when he said that but in my opinion, it is still an ongoing project

sir i will watch again and will tag you time line is it ok? may be its my comprehension issue

 

[maxpane]

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1:12:00 se onward

 

[AeronautIR]

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He said Pakistan drones bana raha hai, apne engine bananay ki salahiat hasil kr chuka hai.
Pakistan is making many types of engines for missiles, drones or vehicles; but a big Turbofan that can power fighters isn't among them.

 

[maxpane]

He said Pakistan drones bana raha hai, apne engine bananay ki salahiat hasil kr chuka hai.
Pakistan is making many types of engines for missiles, drones or vehicles; but a big Turbofan that can power fighters isn't among them.

oh sorry. i thought he is talking about big engine