PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates

Boeing_172 said:
A very sub par system designed for protecting army formations in the field rather then airfields. I guess they had limited options.
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Actually, yes, I believe that this could be a fact here, not that the system is subpar, but since China does not offer anything in a similar category (highly mobile, terminal SHORAD for key point defense of air bases and critical static infrastructure) that is this mature, has any domestic PLA backing (such as the Sky Dragon/Yitian series AD systems, with HQ-11 being an exception here), and has an active production pipeline to mass produce the equipment/missiles.

I have done some thorough research and found out that this is our only option available in the Chinese market in this category that is this advanced, highly mobile, operationally mature, and has been inducted by many countries, hence being in mass production.

The only other option in a similar category, i.e., Terminal SHORAD for stationary key point defense, has to be the HQ-11 AD system, which already comes with a land based LD-3000 CIWS, but it is not mature enough yet. It was revealed recently in 2022, compared to the HQ-17AE in 2018-2019. It was officially shown as being in active service with the PLA during the 2025 Victory Day parade, so it is likely going through a phase where the PLA will refine/mature the system first before foreign countries start evaluating it. Going straight towards the new HQ-11/FM-3000 system would ultimately be a massive strategic gamble for a country like us since we would be placing them straight near our air bases to prepare for the next war high intensity with India.

EDIT: I forgot to add that, yes, CASIC (the manufacturer) explicitly markets the HQ-17AE as a dual-role system designed to be deployed for static infrastructure point defense as well:

"1) Field Air Defense: Accompanying armored columns.
2) Key-Point Air Defense: Protecting airports, ports, military bases, and command centers."
 
aurelianpilled said:
Actually, yes, I believe that this could be a fact here, not that the system is subpar, but since China does not offer anything in a similar category (highly mobile, terminal SHORAD for key point defense of air bases and critical static infrastructure) that is this mature, has any domestic PLA backing (such as the Sky Dragon/Yitian series AD systems, with HQ-11 being an exception here), and has an active production pipeline to mass produce the equipment/missiles.

I have done some thorough research and found out that this is our only option available in the Chinese market in this category that is this advanced, highly mobile, operationally mature, and has been inducted by many countries, hence being in mass production.

The only other option in a similar category, i.e., Terminal SHORAD for stationary key point defense, has to be the HQ-11 AD system, which already comes with a land based LD-3000 CIWS, but it is not mature enough yet. It was revealed recently in 2022, compared to the HQ-17AE in 2018-2019. It was officially shown as being in active service with the PLA during the 2025 Victory Day parade, so it is likely going through a phase where the PLA will refine/mature the system first before foreign countries start evaluating it. Going straight towards the new HQ-11/FM-3000 system would ultimately be a massive strategic gamble for a country like us since we would be placing them straight near our air bases to prepare for the next war high intensity with India.

EDIT: I forgot to add that, yes, CASIC (the manufacturer) explicitly markets the HQ-17AE as a dual-role system designed to be deployed for static infrastructure point defense as well:

"1) Field Air Defense: Accompanying armored columns.
2) Key-Point Air Defense: Protecting airports, ports, military bases, and command centers."
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Good post, thank you for your input.
 
Bilal said:
I know the thread is for SAMs but still worth sharing. Seems like they are re-purposing Phalanx:
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A better approach would be increasing the accuracy of tracking and targeting. The CIWS approach of firing thousands of rounds in a general direction , hoping one or a few will hit, has failed already.
 
Bilal said:
It seems they are re-purposing freed-up phalanx from navy.
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be wary, cavalier is probably the biggest nothingburger company in Pakistan. I didnt realise this was them until i opened it. They have tried their hand at EVERYTHING to land an army contract. Ended up selling a handful of the hamza to PA for un deployment, nothing more, nothing will come of this. cav is all talk, chancers
 
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