PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates

Dual band MFR is nothing new. It has various naval applications. But for land based AD, this is unique.
Also, it says, it is a multi-mode radar incorporating search and tracking. So basically, even if the search radar is knocked out, it can perform all the functions independently.
This involves a technical issue.

Early HQ-16 series air defense systems (excluding the HQ-16F/FE variants) operated as rigidly integrated, closed systems. Although the missile launchers, radar detection and guidance units, and control systems were distributed across multiple vehicles, they functioned as a fixed, interdependent package; no single component could be dispensed with. Put simply, if any single unit were destroyed or disabled, the entire system would lose its operational effectiveness.

In contrast, the HQ-16F/FE employs a system-oriented design. It natively supports networked air defense operations and Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) across different nodes. Although the system still consists of multiple vehicles, the individual units are not rigidly bound to or mutually dependent on one another. In other words, the missile can operate without relying on its own radar system; instead, it can function using target signals and mid-course guidance provided by other platforms within a larger system—such as AEW&C aircraft, UAVs, warships, or ground-based radars. At the same time, the missile's own radar system supports this larger network by providing target signals or mid-course guidance to missiles outside its immediate system.

In other words, when purchasing the HQ-16F/FE air defense missile, the radar system is an optional component rather than a mandatory, fixed element. Customers can purchase radar systems with better or worse performance, or even choose not to purchase the recommended radar system if their existing system is very mature and advanced. Naturally, this is subject to the requirement that the radar system be compatible with the missile system at the data level.

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Within the PLA structure, the mission of countering ballistic missiles is primarily assigned to the PLAAF's air defense units. The PLAGF focuses mainly on organic air defense (accompanying maneuver forces) and point defense of military positions, rather than the air defense of strategic locations.
The HQ-16F air defense system provides the PLAGF with a capability to counter short-range ballistic missiles.

Although ongoing military reforms in China aim to achieve cross-service integration, this process is still underway. Data integration between PLAAF and PLAGF frontline units still requires traversing multiple levels of the command chain—a situation that is unacceptable for air defense systems, where timing is measured in seconds. Consequently, the PLAGF's HQ-16F systems are equipped with comprehensive radar suites. As internal military reforms evolve, the radar systems paired with these air defense missiles will likely become more compact, or may even be eliminated entirely in the future.

As for export customers, those purchasing the HQ-16FE air defense system can select their own radar configurations and are not bound by the PLAGF's setup.
 
For the reasons outlined earlier -
"routine" ops its rotating with 360 picture sits offset from site it is protecting.
Slows down for suspect tracks and stares them down.

TELS are sitting well out of the area of this thing with a VSHORAD protecting it.

The enemy is likely to use Scalp LO for detection delays and Brahmos to compress decision time for a ToT from multiple bearings.

That is where having 2 HQ-17AEs comes in that create the overlapping coverage for this system along with decoys.




Pakistan does not have the below fully implemented:

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Bro, this is a very comprehensive and redundant set-up that PAF didn't have before. But now it is getting there.

However, I think the question in many people's mind is, are PAF AD units getting enough of HQ16FEs and HQ17AEs?

I am not asking for a specific number, but we know that PAF has at least a dozen major air bases to defend. And these high-end systems are fairly expensive.
 
Bro, this is a very comprehensive and redundant set-up that PAF didn't have before. But now it is getting there.

However, I think the question in many people's mind is, are PAF AD units getting enough of HQ16FEs and HQ17AEs?

I am not asking for a specific number, but we know that PAF has at least a dozen major air bases to defend. And these high-end systems are fairly expensive.
I think regardless of enough or not
Focus is going to be at priority bases and those with high value assets.

At the end, Mianwali with its F-7s and Mirages may not be as critical as lets say Bholari.

However, the architecture I gave is just AI mix and match interpretation so in reality it may be perhaps less complex in some aspects and more so in others
 

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