Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Ibbi32]

Would they risk their relationship with Pakistan for India like this ? I don't discount the possibility, but right now, some diplomatic messages should be sent to the Central Asian republics to not arm the Taliban/TTP.

They wouldn’t care much about Pakistan but they care about china and wouldn’t dare jeopardise their relations with then

 

[mythbuster]

Afghanistan's national and foreign policy under Hamid Karzai, Ashraf Ghani and now Haibatullah Akhundzada is "Greater Afghanistan".

Which is that Afghans have all the right to move in and out of Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa due to some tribal links, history and brotherhood but Pakistanis are not allowed to freely move in and out of Afghanistan.

They think they can pull the wool over our eyes and we will tolerate this indefinitely.

Well, the boundary is definitely now up for grabs.

It's a good idea to grab a decent chunk of Afghan territory and hold it as a bargaining chip ....our demands must be maximalist.

 

[Dalit]

Sir,

We had a good thing with these people till around 1993, it went down hill after 1993 and by 2001 any bahi chara was dead.

Sadly we will never go back to any dreams of Halcyon days.

Bhai chara is another gem bro. How we fooled ourselves for so long. I am pinching myself. We allowed a snake into our homes.

 

[aurelianpilled]

The news isn't true but Wakhan isn't the only place that Pakistan can take and make the border more defensible at the same time.

Eastern Bank of chitral river for example.

Pros. More natural border, puts Pakistan a stone throw away from Jalalabad and bases there. Makes sure water right of peshawar valley are never in jeopardy with a large dam in Kunar. Acts as a buffer for Bajaur, Upper and Lower dir.

Cons: Not major towns but still moderately populated.
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Exactly bro! Similarly, in a worst case hypothetical scenario, we could go all the way to the Helmand River and its tributaries, such as the Dori and Arghistan rivers, if we want to really create a natural defensive barrier in the Balochistan sector as a whole. Brutal fighting and ambushes would occur during the initial massive assault, but we would surely overwhelm them in a head-on mechanized combined arms assault.



Largely flat plains of the Sistan Desert (Registan), with very little population except near the eastern banks of these rivers, and a natural barrier that can be far more efficient for border security compared with the current border in Balochistan, where we have seen many infiltration attempts from the northern and central tips (the Sambaza incident near Zhob is a prime example).

Our ISR assets, command posts, and massive watchtowers can effectively monitor movement across these open expanses vs. a rugged mountainous terrain border.



But the real issue would surely be the funding, surveillance, and control over vast swaths of land, around 50,000 to 60,000 sq. km., and there would almost certainly be huge international, local, and Iranian backlash (the Helmand River flows into Iran, Iran's key water source).

 

[Owaiz]

Sir,

We had a good thing with these people till around 1993, it went down hill after 1993 and by 2001 any bahi chara was dead.

Sadly we will never go back to any dreams of Halcyon days.

Sadly, many in positions of power tried to use them for their own ends long after that.

A certain gentleman who is currently facing court martial was strutting around Kabul like Fatih Mehmed entering Constantinople not so long ago.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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If that's okay to post it despte some bleeding, he is very brave to repel the attack!

man deserved recognition!

there are not many (including me) as brave as him!

I have to admit!

a mere KB warrior

 

[Meengla]

He is not as dumb as you are portraying to be.....he will play a very good bad cop .

Khwaja Asif is a straight talker who is not shy to publicly admit that the Noonies' are a 'family rule' and that the current ruling system in Pakistan is 'hybrid'. And while his statements to foreign journalists were embarrassing for Pakistan, the world has seen so much strife in just like five years that his statements don't matter much. Those days are gone. Short attention span and always some major strife both between nations and domestically in so many countries.

 

[NA71]

That was late 80s and 90s. This is second generation of Talibans fighters which we do not control. Their first generation Mullah Umer, Haqqani are all dead and even the Pakistani generals who used to have links with them are either all retired or dead. Current generation of Pakistani army and of Taliban fighters do not like each other nor have a soft spot for either side.

Something is called "strategic Planning" ....certainly a plan beyond the age of planner......

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

That argument has always been true, yet the Pakistani establishment backed the Pashtun militias for all these decades. Was that because they were too stupid to understand the argument you are making ?

NRF was genociding the Afghan Pashtoons which was impacting Pakistani Pashtoons, so Pakistan needed to stop the genocide which Pakistan did.

Pakistan then decided to interfere in Afghanistan's internal matters to prevent any future genocide, but things just went sideways from that point onwards.

It's like India in Sri Lanka in the 1980s.

Pakistan just needs to get out of Afghanistan or grab some Afghan territory forcing the Afghans to concentrate there.

 

[maverik]

I know its irrelevant here but Pravin has been always corrct in his analysis. We have bloody fews years ahead of us

 

[FuturePAF]

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If that's okay to post it despte some bleeding, he is very brave to repel the attack!

I pray for a speedy recovery, and to honor his dedication, I hope they do a proper after action review of what could be done better so his and his colleagues task of defending the border isn’t this harrowing next time.

It looks like all have accept this is no longer a sideshow (the hit and run attacks by miscreants) but needs dedicated focus to combat.

 

[FuturePAF]

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I know it’s irrelevant here but Pravin has been always corrct in his analysis. We have bloody fews years ahead of us

Unless we prepare adequate deterrence to make them think twice. Deterrence is not only in the form of weapons platforms but across the other domains of diplomacy, economics, and domestic industrial production.

 

[Be dazzled]

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this seems like a troll account , but still funny

 

[FuturePAF]

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Everyone should keep in mind the following:

Psyops
Bots
Certain country with hundreds of millions with cheap internet able to sway like counts and make things go viral easily.

If the platforms want to crush this exploit they can. Twitter announced a couple days ago it will show the location of users to combat bot spam.

IMHO, if a user just blanket discounts users outside of their country to only hear domestic voices it can really clamp down on foreigner propaganda campaigns.

In the case of countries line India, it will put many of these bot farms of business. Indian tech firms know their reputation is such that their location status and especially their accents will automatically trigger western audiences to not think of them as credible. Indians are trying very hard to save their back office operations industry, but soon enough someone will come up with a challenge protocol to figure out if the voice on the other end is local or a foreigner.

Users don’t like to feel manipulated, there is growing pushback. There should be a dedicated arm of the cyber army exposing these false flaggers, to decrease their propaganda value.

X to combat bot problem by showing more info about users

: Meet [user] from [location]

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