Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Except it somewhat does and a precedent needs to be established. If you say that in the case of vaccination where clear science and reason dictate a correct path then you can ignore the will of majority, then it becomes a very slippery slope of ignoring the will of the majority to implement what you think is correct based on your belief systems. Little thought experiment, if you were the prime minister and in 2001 the majority of the people of Pakistan decided that Pakistan should declare war against the USA for invading Afghanistan, would you declare war? In 2020, when the majority likely did demand the expulsion of the French ambassador and the severing of ties would you do it? During the whole Palestine genocide people demanded that Pakistan attack Israel, would you have declared war on Israel and bypassed regional actors to put boots on the ground? You can say these are non-sensical but the majority of people in Pakistan likely supported all these actions.

No, I never said that mandatory vaccination should be enforced even if the majority opposed it. My point was about the false equivalence being made.... and about the basics of democracy, and whether one truly believes in them or not....

To disbelieve in democracy is a choice, to do so under the guise of defending it is hypocrisy...
 
People here in Punjab, Islamabad don't understand the ground situation there, you have no idea, the state of Pakistan does not exist anymore in those areas, believe me.
Except the state of Pakistan never existed in those areas in the first place. The state extends its writ and control over those areas by virtue of Jirga's pledging loyalty to Pakistan. Everything is enforced by the tribal system not the constitution of Pakistan or more aptly the whims of COAS, PM, CM etc. Likewise the same is true for Baluchistan.
 
I think the Wing Loongs & Akinci platforms need some workout.
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Everyone should keep in mind the following:

Psyops
Bots
Certain country with hundreds of millions with cheap internet able to sway like counts and make things go viral easily.
 
i think we find TTP support in rural areas of pakistan due to many reason ttP has crafted its propaganda very strategically. They use religious slogans, anti-Western rhetoric, and promises of “Islamic justice” to attract those who feel alienated or angry at the system. Their messaging is emotional and identity-driven, which easily captures the attention of people—especially those with limited access to critical education or media literacy

----In regions like the former FATA and tribal areas, weak government presence and the dismantling of traditional justice systems (like Jirgas) have left many communities feeling abandoned. In such a vacuum, groups like the TTP present themselves as providers of “order” and “justice,” even if through violence. When people feel unheard or neglected, they may turn to alternative authorities even extremist ones.


---Limited education means people are less equipped to challenge or question extremist narratives. The TTP often uses selective religious texts and interpretations, and when individuals don’t understand the full context, they can be easily misled

---When people face unemployment, poverty, or a lack of purpose, they become more susceptible to groups that offer a sense of belonging, identity, and mission. Extremist groups often exploit this emotional vulnerability, presenting themselves as protectors of faith, culture, or justice
 
We need to close ALL our embassies/consulates there, and bring back all our staff.
Shut the borders permanently, DEPORT all the afghans from PAk as well as any sympathizers of these fake refugees, and SHUT all their trade/transit permanently.
STOP and BAN all visas, existing visas need to be REVOKED with Orders to LEAVE within 24 hrs.
Then let it rain alot of FATAH 1 and 2 and 3s and see how long they can like it before they go crying to hindutvas.
See if anyone comes to rescue....
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Thos mofo needs to be found and roasted alive alongwith his companions.
The hurt is obvious in the post....means its getting success.
They cant keep up and defend against modern tactics and weaponry specially when fired on their asses from above or unknown positions
These rats need to be ELIMINATED on daily basis. In 2 weeks the remaining ones will quickly wake up and smell the fantastic chai
 
The analogy stands perfectly. You are a country of conspiracy theorists and idiots ruled by their meaningless agendas. Foreign policy and warfare is not and cannot be decided by the majority. Otherwise you would've gone to war every other weekend, including against the US in 2001. The majority's only job is to elect after which it is the elected who decide. Or should we have held a referendum after May 7?

The 'majority'!! What a Sacred Cow that is! No political party in Pakistan, despite however 'heavy mandate' they got, ever even crossed the 40% popular votes, which means the rest of the 60% were against the 'heavy mandate'. On top of that, it suits some people well to bring 'democracy' into the discussion but only when it is expedient for their preferred political party. And speaking of the 'majority': Indians have thrice elected Modi and look at in just 11 years he has destroyed the hard work of decades at least in terms of foreign policy.
Which brings my point: I don't care for 'democracy' in Pakistan at all as long as Pakistan faces a dire threat from India! And so when someone uses ethnic card or the references to the East Pakistan debacle as veiled threat then I particularly despite those 'leaders'. The Pakistani military is the first, only, and the last line of defense for Pakistan and as long as there is the dire, potent threat from India, I don't give a damn about the democrats, whether real or fake!
 
Except the state of Pakistan never existed in those areas in the first place. The state extends its writ and control over those areas by virtue of Jirga's pledging loyalty to Pakistan. Everything is enforced by the tribal system not the constitution of Pakistan or more aptly the whims of COAS, PM, CM etc. Likewise the same is true for Baluchistan.
i think we find TTP support in rural areas of pakistan due to many reason ttP has crafted its propaganda very strategically. They use religious slogans, anti-Western rhetoric, and promises of “Islamic justice” to attract those who feel alienated or angry at the system. Their messaging is emotional and identity-driven, which easily captures the attention of people—especially those with limited access to critical education or media literacy

----In regions like the former FATA and tribal areas, weak government presence and the dismantling of traditional justice systems (like Jirgas) have left many communities feeling abandoned. In such a vacuum, groups like the TTP present themselves as providers of “order” and “justice,” even if through violence. When people feel unheard or neglected, they may turn to alternative authorities even extremist ones.


---Limited education means people are less equipped to challenge or question extremist narratives. The TTP often uses selective religious texts and interpretations, and when individuals don’t understand the full context, they can be easily misled

---When people face unemployment, poverty, or a lack of purpose, they become more susceptible to groups that offer a sense of belonging, identity, and mission. Extremist groups often exploit this emotional vulnerability, presenting themselves as protectors of faith, culture, or justice
And when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything is a nail.
 
The one man is responsible, the anti army sentiment has been picking up since may 9 2023. Don't deflect, khan went full retard. Never go full retard.


I won’t lie—my entire family supported Nawaz Sharif for years, and later most of us shifted toward Imran Khan. Even I admire some of Khan’s qualities, though I strongly disagree with him on other things. But let me be clear: no matter which political party one supports, I will never stand against the Pakistan Army. For me, Pakistan comes first—and above all, its defense and the brave soldiers who protect us day and night.
-----That’s why I believe all political parties need to sit together, at least once, to show unity. The world shouldn’t see us divided from within. Once we resolve our internal issues, we’ll be able to face any external challenge with strength and dignity. This is not the time to argue over which party is right or wrong—we’re going through a critical phase, and our armed forces need our full support. So first: Pakistan. First: our military. Everything else—political preferences, party loyalties—can come later.
 
The difference is, MQM were never that violent
MQM never hit schools or travellers or labourers
Everyone has problems
But not Kashmiri, sindhi, Punjabi or hell poor impoverished people across the world act with the barbarity that afghans and Baloch do, their is disagreement and then their is blood thirsty savagery

Yup!
I am a Muhajir myself. But I, and I could probably speak for almost all Urdu Speakers/Muhajirs, would never resort to the 'resistance' which the tribals from certain parts of Pakistan do. I mean effing suicide bombing?!!!! Sindhis too her brutally crushed by General Zia ul Haq in the MRD movement of 1984 but you don't see them blowing themselves up, do you?!!
 
21,500+ posts in 7 hours on X with the #Afghanistan #Islamabad - geofenced to Indian Xitter users - (not surprising). Indian's are more concerned about Afghanistan's "show down" with Pakistan than Afghan's themselves.

If this doesn't tell you who or what is behind all this - nothing else will.

Also if you want to laugh - one of the most vocal people on Social Media posting garbage about Pakistan is an apparent Female Journalist from Afghanistan:
View attachment 152906 Nilofar Ayubi - Farsiban Afghan, presently residing in Poland

So this was her most recent tweet "condemning" Pakistan:

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Now just 18 hours ago her timeline and posting is all about Gaza and Palestine...

Then she does a complete 180 and starts talking about in favour of the Taliban regime.


I find if funny because her pinned post tells a very different story:

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a bunch of frauds.


ISI needs to eliminate her in poland....the racist poles won't care much
 
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