Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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funny that it all incompetence in my opinion, lack of any cheap surveillance drones and cheap FPV weapons to target those miltants, just shows incompetence and lack of respect for the lives of paramilitary troops, that just results in very low morale

it seems we have just started using drones/something few months ago with drone surveillance but we are still decade behind what the global forces are doing, at this time i won't be surprised if taliban get better at drone war than we are
Calm down with the Hawi firing, thing is drones are available but there have been instances of units not even using such assets available to them, I think a change in doctrine is needed to better integrate drone surveillance units at the platoon level.
 
Calm down with the Hawi firing, thing is drones are available but there have been instances of units not even using such assets available to them, I think a chance in doctrine is needed to better integrate drone surveillance units at the platoon level
my cousins are in FC, and he told me no they arent availble, he also told me that common c people still use toyotas and that at night they saw taliban sniper having night vision while FC having old G3s

so no you are wrong and facts speaks for themselves, Turkey suppressed a full blown fully financed PKK in few years and we couldn't in few decades.. Economies nd military budgets arent that different

results 70,000 dead
 
I always support Pakistan Military but I also cannot close my eyes to the truth. Unfortunately, Pakistan is this extreme situation due to extremely bad and short-sighted policies of Zia and then followed by other Army Chiefs meaning ISI following the same disastrous policies !
Yes it was important to Stop USSR but instead of strictly restraining Afghan refugees to specific refuguee Camps, these Afghans were allowed to freely roam inside Pakistan and spread crime like never before. What we see today is a disaster - it is a national emergency thanks to these bad policies of Army.
blaming the past for current incompetence isnt a remedy

The current problems are simply an intelligence and leadership failure

its not that hard to suppress a militancy if you want to

dont say USA couldn't, they couldn't because they weren't interested or committed in doing so and were a foreign force
 
The cost of a Taliban ~$500-$1000
Cost of Pakistani solider - at least $20000 over lifetime of training, housing and pay.
Guess who is losing more.
Pakistan losing 100 of security personal every month. Costing millions to economy. It'll best payback If the same amount invested in buying good MRAP.
 
my cousins are in FC, and he told me no they arent availble, he also told me that common c people still use toyotas and that at night they saw taliban sniper having night vision while FC having old G3s
Maybe not to your cousins but there has been push for drones to front line units and we regularly see footage of drones dropping mortars on militants, also no shit that's why we are having discussion about armoured vehicles in the first place.

so no you are wrong and facts speaks for themselves, Turkey suppressed a full blown fully financed PKK in few years and we couldn't in few decades.. Economies nd military budgets arent that different
You do realize that the Turkish economy and military budget is 5x that of Pakistan? Also they were using pretty extreme methods like relocating Kurdish populations mass surveillance etc I don't see that going well here
 
TTP (Tactics, Techniques and Procedures) used by Taliban and affiliates haven't evolved much since 2001 - threat assessment based on previous treads needs to stay laser focused on counter IED and more work on grass-roots intelligence led ops and community policing.
 
Need to resolve this situation soon otherwise India would twist out arm to the East. The best solution is to have a European Union like agreement with Afghanistan and have moderate Islam implemented in Pakistan. I liked a quote that said you can use the hurdles in your way as stepping stones. Indonesia is implementing Islam in some areas and there is Brunei Dar Assalam that has Shariah. The Sharia punishments have been negatively projected on the media but the economic system of Islam is better than Capitalism and the social system is also better than the Western social system.
 
Need to resolve this situation soon otherwise India would twist out arm to the East. The best solution is to have a European Union like agreement with Afghanistan and have moderate Islam implemented in Pakistan. I liked a quote that said you can use the hurdles in your way as stepping stones. Indonesia is implementing Islam in some areas and there is Brunei Dar Assalam that has Shariah. The Sharia punishments have been negatively projected on the media but the economic system of Islam is better than Capitalism and the social system is also better than the Western social system.

Brother we are heading towards a war of survival.
 
TTP (Tactics, Techniques and Procedures) used by Taliban and affiliates haven't evolved much since 2001 - threat assessment based on previous treads needs to stay laser focused on counter IED and more work on grass-roots intelligence led ops and community policing.
A big failure of our Wot was not reforming the police system, cops are the first line of defence in counter insurgency, they are integrated into local communities so can gather intelligence and identify threats fluidly, they also help weaken militant support networks.
 
A thought-provoking analysis. Looks like the IA & TTP/BLA will take the lead for Indoor 2.....


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my cousins are in FC, and he told me no they arent availble, he also told me that common c people still use toyotas and that at night they saw taliban sniper having night vision while FC having old G3s

so no you are wrong and facts speaks for themselves, Turkey suppressed a full blown fully financed PKK in few years and we couldn't in few decades.. Economies nd military budgets arent that different

results 70,000 dead
the problem is vewry toxic.
the problem is the people and the politicians who see these terrorists as brothers. the people and politicians who march out and protest against the military operations and continue to mock the military and side with the terrorists.
the army has cleared out the area many times before but the moment it will leave, the people / politicians will bring their brothers back.

you seen the ranting videos of the new KP miister? he is fuming over the military operation because according to him every one killed in military operation is an innocent Pashtun, his same rule doesnt apply when Taliban pull out people from the transport and execute them and when they attack local schools.

our most popular and loved political party has firmly placed itself in the Afghan camp. it favours talking to Taliban while they continue to host and send over the terrorists. I want to clarify that this criticsm of Pakistani military is not bsed on some politicial ideology and democratic values, its based on a single fact that if my party is in power or in opposition. back in the days Noonie patwaris also used to mock the army and criticise the swat opeation when they were in opposition. their ideology is flushed down a public toilet once they cut a deal and come in power. today noonies are sucking to army and in the past PTI self exild trolls who mock the dead Pakistani soldiers used to tell us that COAS is father of the country.

you wont find this example in Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia.. only in Pakistan, peole and politicians use the whataboutism and policies of te past as a justification for their continued and retarded opposition to correct the course now.

I dont want to wish something bad for these appologists but until these terrorists start killing them like they killed ANP and PPP politicians , whiping out entire generations ... these appologists will continue to side with terrorists.
 
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The only people Taliban are fooling is themselves.
 
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