Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Owaiz said:
Exactly. What is the endgame here ? Looks like the Taliban has just been pushed into India's waiting arms.
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Afghans can be pushed into indias waiting ass hole for all we care

Plenty of warning has now been given, jirgas, talks, politicians sent, trade talks, aid

What the hell more do afghans want to stop terrorism
 
EternalMortal said:
what is the point of these airstrikes other than sending a message? even if you kill a few leaders they'll just promote new ones & continue on where they left off. & then you also have to hope that the new guys are less competent.

you need a sustained air campaign to disrupt their command structure enough to have effect but army isn't willing to go that far either. even if you do that you also need boots on the ground to capitalize on the chaos in their organization but army is unwilling to even create a buffer zone.

does army even have an actual strategy for an end game or is it just send a message & go back to business as usual?

i will say this again. war & terrorism are downstream of POLITICAL problems. Military force is used to create space & leverage to solve it politically. Unless your end goal is to carry out a genocide, using armed force without a political end game just means fighting a forever war.
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This has been made a forever war for us.

And army's lack of will for sustained campaigns directly stems from lack of resources/economic costs. Even a two hour campaign costs dearly to the national wallet. The restraints is actually weakness stemming from lack of economic depth.
 
Ive been busy and came here to review this but 35 pages already.....
sorry to ask but can someone please summarize reasonably reliable news about these strikes?
Thanks
 
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Poster is a Taliban mouthpiece BTW...
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Nobody can have a foothole in afg without pak approval.... Taliban or no taliban.... Even the us and nato couldnt do it for india. Indians just dont get it. Next time target the indians in afg too, more juicy targets.
 
we should talk with neighbours who hace border with afghnistan. need to create a collective buffer zones and support a mitia who could fight them . this time they wnt go bcak to anyother country.
 
Dalit said:
It would be nice if we had a consecutive night of strikes.
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Unfortunately, Pakistan's response has always been "tit for tat", the focus of the armed forces are on other things like politics, and DHA projects :( ... and the poor Pakistani soldier pays for this indifference with their lives as we can all see...
 
Broghil said:
Those thinking that this all started with Pakistan helping US in cold war forget that this has been the story from day 1. Faqir of Ipi in Waziristan was always supported by Aghan Govt in his fight against Pakistan and they even got him declared first President of the national Assembly of Pashtunistan by a jarga.
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People keep forgetting this

They on purpose don't mention DECADES of Afghan attacks and harami behavior, IPI was just the tribal manzoor pashteen of the past and they had the same donkey supporters

They just magically blame Pakistan for decades later trying to control the Afghan horde
 
Unless Pakistan annexes the neighbouring provinces of Afghanistan, about 13 in total , and move the durand line westwards, near Kabul, extremism and terrorism from Afghanistan will continue.

We need to shorten the land, resources and population available to Afghanistan and its extremist rulers, so that they with limited resources, they would not do negative activities.

You don't want to go into Afghanistan because you get sweaty feeling and too much heat and barren land doesn't offer scenic beauty and relaxation to your eyes ?

Or

Should the priorities be different?

Not all locals are hostile since many pushtoon and baloch tribes live on both sides of the border. Assimilation of the local population wouldn't be that difficult since many of them will be of the same tribes / ethnicity.

The past 300 year history of Conquest of Kabul is very bloody and horrible. However, I am only advocating to unite and annex, with a quick referendum of course, the neighbouring provinces only, which are attached to the durand line and have more common with the people of Pakistan then to the rest of Afghanistan.

This is the same maneuver / technique taken by Russia, in Ukraine, to protect the local ethnic Russian population.

Afghanistan was never a country. The bigger it is, the greater threat it poses to regional stability and allows foreign forces to infest the local society and harm it's neighbours.

Balkanization is the only way forward and pakistan shouldn't miss the opportunity to increase it's strategic depth.
 
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Okay. So what is the update since morning ? Any fresh round of fighter jets dropping sweets ?
 
ACE OF HEARTS said:
Unless Pakistan annexes the neighbouring provinces of Afghanistan, about 13 in total , and move the durand line westwards, near Kabul, extremism and terrorism from Afghanistan will continue.

We need to shorten the land, resources and population available to Afghanistan and its extremist rulers, so that they with limited resources, they would not do negative activities.

You don't want to go into Afghanistan because you get sweaty feeling and too much heat and barren land doesn't offer scenic beauty and relaxation to your eyes ?

Or

Should the priorities be different?
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I disagree. Pushing into enemy territory leads to hostile locals, that exposes us to the same trap of Guerilla warfare the British, the Soviets and the Americans fell into.

If the worlds leading Empires of the last 300 years couldn't deal with that, our economic resources are not up to the task. What we need to do is secure our borders.

1. Deport all Afghans
2. Build the wall
3. Man the wall
4. Add sensors, drones, cameras and robotic armed vehicles all along the wall
5. Bomb and kill anyone associated with the TTP, wherever they are.
 
More casualties - this time in Tirah.

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313Ghazi said:
What we need to do is secure our borders.

1. Deport all Afghans
2. Build the wall
3. Man the wall
4. Add sensors, drones, cameras and robotic armed vehicles all along the wall
5. Bomb and kill anyone associated with the TTP, wherever they are.
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We could barely get the f#*kin' fence (that they keep cutting) up in Lord knows how many years.

Building a Wall would be a decades project (for Pakistan). Nations will have build Underground Railways from scratch, and we'd still be 3-4mi with the wall.
 
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