Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[RocketLaw]

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[Signalian]

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@PakFactor finally someone said it like it is.

kuch ghalat to nai bol diya muj nacheez ne

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Intriguing that 25th and 27th Squadrons weren't used although they carry a larger arsenal and variety of A2G weaponry than F-16's, with a terrain hugging capability and no enemy AD threat.

Long time no read....

 

[uknwit]

You should have taken your own advice when I provided the first link. So if the CIA is a "stakeholder" what is a belligerent like the Soviet Union? A cherub.

But like you said... "let's leave it at that".

Well you haven't replied to me i am actually waiting for you my friend you called me a terrorist sympathiser so would like some reponse to it

 

[RescueRanger]

kuch ghalat to nai bol diya muj nacheez ne

Not at all sir, in fact myself and @PakFactor have had many debates on the same lines prior.

 

[RescueRanger]

Well you haven't replied to me

I didn't intend to reply to you. That is why.

 

[Bilal]

As part of analysis, the situation (like the current one) is dissected and discussed.
Lets look at it. Taliban minister went to India, blamed Pakistan for attack and nothing from TTP.

who do you think is the strongest faction (in terms of inflicting damage) inside Afghanistan ?
AQ, IS or TTP ?

My assessment is that these labels are very fluid in the context of Afghanistan. Same HR pool moves around and takes different labels as it fits their interests.

 

[Signalian]

Read my past post no J35 will arrive to pak airforce and if Pakistan is even idiotic enough to enter long term war with Afghanistan which I honestly won´t even count it out as this admin lacks for sight, China will cut all ties as all there investments on both sides will go to the dust-pin because they want Pakistan to gatekeep India and not Afghanistan plus they have alot of investments in Afghanistan such as rare earth minerals

Sir, you are an expert on PAF acquisition and Chinese leadership mentality, who am i to say anything.

However, as per business guidelines, give Chinese $$$ and get J-35.

 

[Aggregate]

This is no conspiracy my brother but a ground reality. Just look how reckless this gov´t is nowadays do you really think it is smart.

I don´t think we will recieve J35 either. India has actully relations with China and dumped the US..

They understood Pakistan held all the cards and they were regionally isolated but apparently not anymore but Pakistan is fencing herself now

Dude you are watching way too much of Republic TV. Pakistan just got a briefing on J35s 2 weeks back and then again yesterday. The Chinese do not have dementia, unlike the sources who are feeding this info to you, apparently.

 

[Farhan23]

Sir, you are an expert on PAF acquisition and Chinese leadership mentality, who am i to say anything.

However, as per business guidelines, give Chinese $$$ and get J-35.

China doesn´t sell for profit but when they have geopolitical interests.

Play ball with China you will get it period but not for profit

 

[RescueRanger]

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Yaar yeh account bohat chota hain.

Banda kuch soach samaj kar chota hain.... Is ke patang to often bo kata ho jatey hain.

 

[M. Sarmad]

You should have taken your own advice when I provided the first link. So if the CIA is a "stakeholder" what is a belligerent like the Soviet Union? A cherub.

But like you said... "let's leave it at that".

You are being unnecessarily defensive instead of engaging in an informed discussion.... That’s precisely why I said, "let’s leave it at that."..... I hadn’t even begun to delve into the actual topic, the CIA’s Cold War–era demonization of the USSR and the whole “warm waters” propaganda that shaped Pakistan’s policy outlook.... But anyway, let’s leave it there.

 

[uknwit]

I didn't intend to reply to you. That is why.

Well that is rude i mean come on you asked and accused and all i did was answer you and you go all ignore mode atleast apologize for not being moderate or atleast calling names that you should not have called as a basic courtesy

 

[Ghaznavi101]

Jani the problem is that if Afghanistan is sincere with Pakistan we will be sincere back - You know about my old posts so you know where I am coming from. We have lost a lot of good people as I am sure you have on your side.

The Taliban makes empty promises, these promises are never delivered - the Taliban FM is busy taking photos with ambulances and sacks of wheat. Are Afghan so quick to forget who has been helping them all these years?

Pakistan is not blameless - I wrote a detailed post on this in this very thread but I would save you the history lesson. If things are to change then either Taliban government make serious steps to ensure ttp cannot use Afghanistan as a launchpad against Pakistan and Pakistan will reciprocate that or Afghanistan regime continues the status quo.

I had friends in Afghanistan one of whom died when the Taliban took over Kabul - The reason I have become more venomous in recent years is because the overtures coming from not just the Taliban but also Ordinary Afghans has been overtly hostile and odious.

You can only tolerate being called a dog so many times before you lash out.

What Afghanistan are you referring to? The average citizens who are stuck in the firefight or Taliban and their sympathizers? That's what I meant, you guys need to differentiate between Afghans and Taliban. I'm Pashtun Afghan and despise these goat fkrs. But that was also your strategic move, just to backfire.
That's what I am saying about this move. It seems Pakistan, Pakistanis only think about now!
Not the side effects, backfiring and potential outfall?

For me, I just need popcorn. I want Pakistan to decimate the Taliban (not average citizens). We're basically held hostage by these morons.
I feel like even Pakistan doesn't even know what its doing. Just saying Insha'Allah and mashallah and hope for the best.
You can't blame us for having a negative image of Pakistan, neither can I blame you guys for doing those things.
Initially our issue with Durand Line isn't about Pakistan or Punjabis. It's the British boundary. Even if Pakistan never existed, we would have the same issue with India or Balochistan. This existed prior to the birth of Pakistan. It isn't an issue just because we hate Pakistanis, punjabis!

 

[Signalian]

My assessment is that these labels are very fluid in the context of Afghanistan. Same HR pool moves around and takes different labels as it fits their interests.

Ok there is one really big factor that needs addressing in your post.

So if u allow me - all these factions maybe religious extremists and thats a common point in them but due to nature of their motives, they cannot trade resources (fighters) but can fight against a common enemy if their interests align.

India treads cunningly in Afghanistan, not angering US by involving itself with AQ or IS but fully supporting TTP.