Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[uknwit]

You are being unnecessarily defensive instead of engaging in an informed discussion.... That’s precisely why I said, "let’s leave it at that."..... I hadn’t even begun to delve into the actual topic, the CIA’s Cold War–era demonization of the USSR and the whole “warm waters” propaganda that shaped Pakistan’s policy outlook.... But anyway, let’s leave it there.

Exactly what i said but just different words

 

[Hakwa Nadro]

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try again, and then again until you do.

Not succeeding is better, you keep trying and keep eliminating high profile terrorists near and around him, use him as a bait and in humiliation he will make a mistake that could destroy TTP as a whole outfit. While targeting him ISI should also eliminate all the RAW agents present in Afghanistan.

 

[Signalian]

China doesn´t sell for profit but when they have geopolitical interests.

Play ball with China you will get it period but not for profit

Ok here is a question for you.

How can Pakistan play ball with China to get its interests (mainly against TTP) straightened inside Afghanistan ?

 

[uknwit]

Not succeeding is better, you keep trying and keep eliminating high profile terrorists near and around him, use him as a bait and in humiliation he will make a mistake that could destroy TTP as a whole outfit. While targeting him ISI should also eliminate all the RAW agents present in Afghanistan.

Trying same thing again and again and expecting different results everytime is a fools strategy. You have killed TTP leaders multiple times what changes have you seen?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Exactly what i said but just different words

I must have missed that post(s) of yours!

 

[Farhan23]

What Afghanistan are you referring to? The average citizens who are stuck in the firefight or Taliban and their sympathizers? That's what I meant, you guys need to differentiate between Afghans and Taliban. I'm Pashtun Afghan and despise these goat fkrs. But that was also your strategic move, just to backfire.
That's what I am saying about this move. It seems Pakistan, Pakistanis only think about now!
Not the side effects, backfiring and potential outfall?

For me, I just need popcorn. I want Pakistan to decimate the Taliban (not average citizens). We're basically held hostage by these morons.
I feel like even Pakistan doesn't even know what its doing. Just saying Insha'Allah and mashallah and hope for the best.
You can't blame us for having a negative image of Pakistan, neither can I blame you guys for doing those things.
Initially our issue with Durand Line isn't about Pakistan or Punjabis. It's the British boundary. Even if Pakistan never existed, we would have the same issue with India or Balochistan. This existed prior to the birth of Pakistan. It isn't an issue just because we hate Pakistanis, punjabis!

If I had the opportunity to eliminate you or a Talib I would have eliminated you 100 times over because you have no realistic good wish upon your own people other then slavery and being puppet nation.

What have you done? Brought the Americans upon your people and they killed 400k of your people for the sake of what they believe in.

It is folks like you who betray even the neighbouring countries who sheltered you.

A Talib may be aggro but they are way more decent and won´t sell their own lands or the lands of their brethen neighbours.

We were at more security risk during your puppet regime eras where the Ameircans have parked nukes at our border being fenced in by the Ameircans and Blood thirsty hinduvata but you don´t care about all of that because you would sell Afghanistan, Pakistan iran and everyone.

A man who sells his nation, would sell his relatives and family.

 

[Ghaznavi101]

Latest Afghan sources(anti Taliban) on the ground report 2 top tier TTP fighters were killed. That's it.

Wali seemed to have escape the attack.

 

[RescueRanger]

What Afghanistan are you referring to? The average citizens who are stuck in the firefight or Taliban and their sympathizers? That's what I meant, you guys need to differentiate between Afghans and Taliban. I'm Pashtun Afghan and despise these goat fkrs. But that was also your strategic move, just to backfire.
That's what I am saying about this move. It seems Pakistan, Pakistanis only think about now!
Not the side effects, backfiring and potential outfall?

For me, I just need popcorn. I want Pakistan to decimate the Taliban (not average citizens). We're basically held hostage by these morons.
I feel like even Pakistan doesn't even know what its doing. Just saying Insha'Allah and mashallah and hope for the best.
You can't blame us for having a negative image of Pakistan, neither can I blame you guys for doing those things.
Initially our issue with Durand Line isn't about Pakistan or Punjabis. It's the British boundary. Even if Pakistan never existed, we would have the same issue with India or Balochistan. This existed prior to the birth of Pakistan. It isn't an issue just because we hate Pakistanis, punjabis!

My dear old friend - you must appreciate that in heated environments like this thread the word Afghan is used very loosely - You know I helped build a school in Afghanistan right? We even helped train the teachers and girls there in First Aid. I would love to see a friendly and prosperous Afghanistan on our western border but that cannot happen in the present environment - as for any territorial claims this can be discussed and addressed when InshaALLAH sensible people once again sit in Kabul.

But should that day ever come - sane voices like you must hold them to account, you mustn't let snakes like Khalilzad get his hooks into your nation once again - which he is still very much trying to do by the way.

As for the deportations - this is happening because as you will have noticed the general mood not just in Pakistan but globally is one of protectionism and anti-immigration.

But for all this to change - the Afghan people have to then fight for their rights be it through an international forum or a third party mediator (not stakeholders in the region) that way you can comfortably say that any agreement or solution is independent of interference either from India or Pakistan and the detractors sitting both inside Afghanistan and outside will have no leg to stand on.

 

[Bilal]

Ok there is one really big factor that needs addressing in your post.

So if u allow me - all these factions maybe religious extremists and thats a common point in them but due to nature of their motives, they cannot join trade resources (fighters) but can fight against a common enemy if their interests align.

India treads cunningly in Afghanistan, not angering US by involving itself with AQ or IS but fully supporting TTP.

I meant in literal sense not just a common thread of all of them being extremists. Like commanders jumping from one brand to the other as it suits. There might be a core cadre but there have been reports of people moving across.

 

[RescueRanger]

Well that is rude

You can't force me to reply to you if I don't want to bro.

 

[uknwit]

I must have missed that post(s) of yours!

Kindly of like first post where all this altercation started

 

[RescueRanger]

You are being unnecessarily defensive instead of engaging in an informed discussion.... That’s precisely why I said, "let’s leave it at that."..... I hadn’t even begun to delve into the actual topic, the CIA’s Cold War–era demonization of the USSR and the whole “warm waters” propaganda that shaped Pakistan’s policy outlook.... But anyway, let’s leave it there.

Stay blessed.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like the regime change is the most optimized solution that can satisfy all the stakeholders on Afghanistan who're at the receiving end....

My rule of thumb: whoever Bharat aids in evil falls....

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[Signalian]

Yaar yeh account bohat chota hain.
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Banda kuch soach samaj kar chota hain.... Is ke patang to often bo kata ho jatey hain.

This forum is made for discussion. Analysis is a part of it, no one is a policy maker here but everyone has to strive to reach verdicts to satisfy inner cravings of geopolitical designs.

Somehow, the analysis side has died down and its become even more difficult to steer members towards an analysis of a given situation.

 

[Hakwa Nadro]

Trying same thing again and again and expecting different results everytime is a fools strategy. You have killed TTP leaders multiple times what changes have you seen?

That's why I said kill everyone near and around him, use him as a bait. For the first time Pak Military has been pro-active and taken the initiative and they should not let go.