Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Arsenal Caan said:
Toppling the Afghan government is the easy part. Maintaining control afterward is the true challenge. For perspective, the U.S. launched its invasion of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, and just 37 days later, on November 13, 2001, Kabul fell. However, two decades and 2.3 Trillion dollars later, Taliban return to the power.

I don't understand what fuels our arrogance? Do we believe we surpass the formidable U.S. of the 2000s, with its earth-shaking B-52s and daisy cutters? It’s delusional to think we can tame Afghanistan. We’re heading towards a war that will fill countless coffins with our fallen.

May Allah grant wisdom to end this recklessness. The Taliban (TTA) represent the best prospect for a stable Afghanistan and region.
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The USA was interested in "nation building " in Afghanistan, just like the Soviets before them, Both wanted to mold Afghanistan into their version of liberal secular societies. They failed loosing lives and money.
Pakistan is not interested in "nation building " . Afghanistan can revert to a 10th century society for all we care,
All we want is that Afghanistan should not attempt to drag us into the 10th century. There are painful consequences for Afghanistan as it attempts to do so.
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The tribal leaders of the Pashtuns have come out in favor of their forces.
 
Demolition ahead..

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Baibers_1260 said:
The USA was interested in "nation building " in Afghanistan, just like the Soviets before them, Both wanted to mold Afghanistan into their version of liberal secular societies. They failed loosing lives and money.
Pakistan is not interested in "nation building " . Afghanistan can revert to a 10th century society for all we care,
All we want is that Afghanistan should not attempt to drag us into the 10th century. There are painful consequences for Afghanistan as it attempts to do so.
@Master Chief
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and big thing Pakistan supported them during these wars
 
I very much think that Pakistan can easily succeed in this campaign with minimal blowback. The reason being that there is very recent history of the US in Afghanistan, there was a lot to be learned, a lot of scenarios that either succeeded or failed that have so far let us have the upper hand.

This includes the behaviors of TTP/Taliban, their psychology, habits etc.

After all, we're all human.
 
"Videos purportedly of the fighting and its aftermath have been shared online and on messaging groups, including footage claiming to be of those killed and grainy shots from night vision cameras claiming to be of check posts destroyed. The videos have not been verified by the BBC."

Gotta love the cope from the Delhiphiles at the BBC!

"Grainy shots"...."claiming"...."cannot verify saar!!!"

It is because of Indian origin editorial bodies at the BBC that the reaction is identical to that from actual Indians back in May.

"Saar - we don't believe your evidence!"

No point trying to convince such people. Let them wallow in ignorance so that they will be truly shocked when Pakistani flags rise in Kabul.
 
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I think Ahmad Sharifzad receives, somewhat, legit sources. I remember when the ISPR hadn't uploaded their precision strikes video, he reported a massive airstrike near Spin Buldak in daylight, and it turned out to be the Asmatullah Karar Camp opposite Spin Buldak.
 
Meengla said:
I think we all know that President Zardari is technically the Commander in Chief of the Pakistani military and this was just a 'courtesy call' with maybe a few words about Pakistan's war with Afghanistan. Nothing more.
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Maybe POP ( President of Pakistan) threw in his 2 cents that were not received with pleasure.
 

What you need to know so far about the Pakistan-Afghanistan situation​

Exchange of blows resumes on Tuesday night after a lull in attacks; other countries have sought to mediate.

Dawn.com
October 15, 2025

Pakistan and Afghanistan have often engaged in minor border skirmishes, particularly since the withdrawal of US forces and the Taliban’s takeover in 2021. However, tensions have recently escalated to an unprecedented level, with clashes over the past few days prompting intervention from mediators.

The latest flare-up coincided with a historic visit by Taliban Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi to India, raising alarm in Islamabad after he referred to Kashmir as part of India and said terrorism was Pakistan’s “internal problem” that the country should solve itself.

Escalation​

The recent clashes began late on Saturday night, when 23 Pakistani troops were martyred and 200 Taliban and affiliated terrorists killed at the border following an attack from the Afghan side at around 9pm, according to the military’s media wing, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR).

The ISPR said skirmishes between the two sides began “on the night of Oct 11/12, 2025, [after] Afghan Taliban and India-sponsored Fitna-al-Khawarij launched an unprovoked attack on Pakistan, along the Pak-Afghan border”.

Fitna-al-Khawarij is a term the state uses for terrorists belonging to the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), while Fitna-al-Hindustan is a term designated by the state for terrorist organisations in Balochistan.

Afghanistan claimed it carried out the attack as a “retaliatory” measure, accusing Islamabad of conducting air strikes in its territory earlier this week. For its part, Islamabad has not confirmed whether it was behind the air strikes but maintained that Kabul must “stop harbouring the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan on its soil”.

By midnight, both sides were targeting each other, as Afghan forces struck several Pakistani posts and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and artillery pounded Afghanistan’s posts, targeting hostile positions in the Afghan provinces of Helmand, Kandahar, Khost, Paktia, and Paktika.

Pakistan warns of ‘unwavering, befitting response’​

On Sunday, the Foreign Office (FO) warned that further acts of aggression from Afghanistan would receive an “unwavering and befitting response”. It expressed concern about the “unwarranted aggression by the Afghan Taliban, Fitna al Khawarij and Fitna al Hindustan”, which it said would destabilise neighbourly relations between the two nations.

The same day, Afghan Taliban Spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid had said that Pakistani strikes on Kabul “will have consequences” and that the country had “weapons to respond”.
 
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