Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[PakistanLVR]

Keep it that way

Just tell the Afghans we need a period of peace and no terrorism before we can reopen

Has anyone discussed the possibilities of safe-havens on Pakistan side of the border with stocked weapons? We taught them logistics - so it shouldn't be difficult to figure out how the weapons and men are coming through.

Someone mentioned about withdrawing from FATA. Then what? Should we leave Gilgit too for the subhuman Indians to snatch? I think a thorough bombing run intense in nature along with the political will to make the tail straight. Find out which tribes are divided by the Durand line or border and offer all them Pakistan citizenship. Study the Romans and how they handle these types of issues. I have my PHD in Supply Chain and have studied the ancients and how they dealt with similar issues. We are somewhat dealing with the similar issues and mentality. We are Muslims and therefore do not massacre innocent people nilly willy that few here are calling for.

The Afghans are a nuisance - but the bigger threat are the scums Indians waiting next door. For tomorrow it will be a Muslim vs Hindu war, and we must not make it about ethnicity.

 

[MS Sandhu]

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Good.

This is not a reliable source

 

[mythbuster]

Pakistan is not a bully. It has been attacked by taliban and its proxies for over 20 years. Thousands of Pakistanis have died.

You need to course correct your principles. You sound like a far left non binary LGBQT+ friendly woke nazi.

Protecting Pakistanis is more important than anything else and it must be achieved by any means neccessary.

It was his Messiah who was raising hue and crying against collateral damage.... these PTI groupies have selective memory.

 

[PakistanLVR]

It was his Messiah who was raising hue and crying against collateral damage.... these PTI groupies have selective memory.

Not selective memory - but not giving the scum Indians another opportunity of interference like how they trained the terrorists in East Pakistan (Bangladesh).

The Indians have supported terrorism for a long time without much repercussions

 

[Master Chief]

@r3alist @Master Chief

I'm going to add something which will undoubtedly get the ethnology-supremacists incredibly. I can tell just by reading the comments - there is a strong under-current of hatred towards Pashtuns in KPK masked by using vulgar language against the Afghans. I have no love loss for the Afghans. I have personally dealt with their behavior in three separate continents.

This has come down to Muslims vs MINOs. I've shy away from using these terms but it has come to do that. KPK and Afghanistan are conservative and more in line with Islamic values than Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi. The MINOs ruling Pakistan think that by assigning these terrorists cute-sy Islamic names as Kwarjites or whatnot - that the PR battle is won. The truth is - many Pakistanis who are still practicing Islamic values across the four provinces - I can see why they would provide support to the TTA and TTP ideology.

The state uses Islam like a tissue paper whenever it needs to suppress people or to support foreign initiatives that negatively impacts Muslims across the wider MENA.

Non-KPK areas of Pakistan are utter trash socially and culturally. The cities of Pakistan are infested by liberal western ideologies pushed by "Elite" US universities - who we now safely confirmed are J*w led which pushed BLM, Open borders, LGBTs, Promsciouslity under the guise of "freedom." But actually it was to mentally subjugate black and browns Global South. Pakistan is in fact just as wrapped up in all of this as the others many here make fun of.
Nudity, drinking, LGBT, Zionist-Christians are running amok freely across Punjab.

If you give two choices to the people of Pakistan - either have a rule under TTA/TTP or the regime that was left behind in 1947 - who do you think they will support? I could literally see the current regime just as easily siding with their Hindu cousins next door against Muslims and Pakistanis who would want a Sharia compliance country - which its not at all at this time.

I traveled to Gilgit and many Non-northerner Pakistanis dressed provocautely. The people of Gilgit are noble and upright. Too respectful and honorably to beat the living lights of the beta males that often bring these girls to the northern areas (on long-getaway weekend). Many northerners complaint about this but they can't do anything about it which leds me to believe the state of Pakistan is deliberately is pushing this lifestyles across Pakistan. On some level, I have to applause the people of KPK for standing up for their ideals and values. This is a bigger issue than just TTA or TTP.

In short - the deislamization of Pakistan is in full swing. I am not asking to become Iran or Afghanistan - but what you have is a half-a**ed attempt at both Islam and Western values. The state knows its Islamic credentials are dog-sh*t and hence the TTA is taking full advantage of it. The attacks on Pakistan are directly tied to the current system and its incompetency and inability protect the people of Pakistan. I am still waiting for 2,000lbs air strikes on Indians....

There is, in my honest opinion, an erroneous conflation at the centre of this narrative.

There is a direct interdependent relationship being suggested between degree of religiosity and belligerence towards the Pakistani state. From what I can gather from your post, religiosity and degree of resilience against "western feminist/rainbow alphabet culture" (for want of a better phrase) is being directly linked with belligerence towards Pakistani sovereignty and statehood. I do not think this is the case at all.

On the contrary, the bombs of the terrorists coming across our western border do not discriminate between religious children in NWFP vs non-religious ones, they do not discriminate between hijabis and non-hijabis. The vile threats made by fitna operatives online with phull co-opting of their hindutva allies against Pakistani females do not discriminate between pious females and non-pious ones, not that perceived religiosity of the target makes any difference to my reaction.

A mighty hammer of vengeance must befall these miscreants.

Their comments and threats and bombs do not discriminate between any of us.

The Pakistani state does, however, discriminate quite significantly. It discriminates wholeheartedly against ANY fitna terrorists and their handlers from the east, while making all efforts to empower those who are not of this category.

Whether the terrorists target the hafiz-ul-quran in a religious seminary or some schoolgirl on a bus dreaming of being a cricketer, whether it is the faujee supporter or the noonie or the Imran idoliser, whether it is the religious muslim minister or the atheist or the Hindu or the Christian or the Sikh, the pathaan, the balochi, the punjabi, the kashmiri....whomsoever they target, the nation state of Pakistan will decisively discriminate against them by way of identifying and isolating these individuals and ultimately destroying them AND their ideology.

This is the most important difference between their war and our war, and this is why they are destined to failure while we shall succeed.

 

[Liquidator]

It was his Messiah who was raising hue and crying against collateral damage.... these PTI groupies have selective memory.

How much do you get every time you mention PTI in a post?

Is it a good side hustle or your main job?

 

[mythbuster]

How much do you get every time you mention PTI in a post?

Is it a good side hustle or your main job?

I am a poor man so dollar a post is good enough for me

 

[Master Chief]

Im not making excuses for treacherous Kabul I suspect the Taliban lost control of TTP and can not control the terror group and are afraid to admit it. They do not want to show how weak they are.
There have only been a few times in history that all of Afghanistan was truly centrally controlled.

This is PRECISELY the reality of the situation. And this is why the talibs need to be ousted, one way or another, and any new Aghan government, likely with some foreign help (be it Pakistani, American, or other...though American "help" in isolation is fraught with further risks), must flush out the terrorists instead. Failing all that, Pakistan must do it herself.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Liquidator

How much do you get every time you mention PTI in a post? Is it a good side hustle or your main job?

It is uncalled for, sir. I have been on the receiving end of such slander every time I post on SM such as FB. I am accused of receiving Rs 2/post from the BJP IT Cell every time I make a pro-govt or pro-party post, purely on merit. Such unfair accusations create needless polarisation which ultimately weakens the nation.

@mythbuster

A dollar a post is quite generous. BJP IT cell pays only Rs 2 or 2.5 cents per post

Regards

 

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Good.

hell yeah, they can eat poppy and drink charas for all we care....

 

[Dr khan]

PTI and KP are responsible for the next TTP attack taking place in Pakistan.

Also responsible for balchistan

Im not making excuses for treacherous Kabul I suspect the Taliban lost control of TTP and can not control the terror group and are afraid to admit it. They do not want to show how weak they are.
There have only been a few times in history that all of Afghanistan was truly centrally controlled.

Well they have two options
Either accept it and co ordinate with Pakistan air power/drones and clear it

Or dont accept it and get punished

 

[mythbuster]

Absolutely, our real enemy is the Hindus or hindutva at least

That is a enemy we need to prepare for, yet we have these human donkeys to the west called Afghans, who would risk hundreds of millions of Muslims for their ethnocentric bullshit

We need to carry and use a big stick and beat the Afghans hard every time they step out of line,

Do you remember how the west , specifically America , was dehumanising islam and particularly Pakistan after 9/11 ?.....it would be nice if we desist from dehumanising other.

 

[Dr khan]

The Pakistan Afghan border has 5 checkpoints. There are very few roads to transport bulk goods such as food and duel. The rest of the border consists of "donkey" trails on mountain passes that cannot be used by vehicles. "Donkey back" smuggling of goods has always been present even with the checkpoints open and will continue regardless of what happens elsewhere. However "donkey back" smuggling is insufficient to sustain a poverty stricken landlocked nation entirely dependent on imports from a single country to the east.
This is exactly the dilemma Nepal faces with India. By shutting down just 5 checkpoints India has regularly forced Nepal onto its knees literally begging for the borders to be opened.

Didn't India successfully close the border with Bangladesh after the change of government in Bangladesh? The India-Bangladesh border is approximately 4096 km. Yet it is mostly controlled. However unlike Afghanistan and Nepal Bangladesh has an access to the sea and a couple of good ports . So the Indian closure is not that effective, Additionally the closure of the India Bangladesh border hurts Infia much more because it also closes off land, water and air transit access to India's north eastern states leaving only the Siliguri corridor "chicken's neck" as a point of access.

Honestly bengladesh sea acess means if it has even a single good port it doesn't need india

Sea is the cheapest way to import things and nothing can compete with that
AFGHANISTAN is basically using Pakistan Sea port. Thats all ..

 

[gamaji]

Why is everyone obsessing over this "greater Afghanistan" thing? Even half of Afghanistan doesn't want that.

A valid point bro. Indians keep investing on some elements in Afghanistan to keep this issue alive.

Indians, disgracefully being the most liar nation and shamelessly running the largest network of fake news, keep this bubble alive.

Some brainless Afghanis and Pakistanis keep buying the dead horse of greater Afghanistan.

 

[Starlord]

This clash expose the nature of KSA/Pakistan Defense pact, I had low expectations from it anyway but complete silence of Arabs on this, disregarding the deaths of Pakistani soldiers, and Afghanistan full support to TTP which has committed horrific atrocities also bury the PACT right there... It was a distraction, and probably a way to kinda pressure America into signing a PACT with KSA, I hope Pakistani's learn that Afghanistan is no brother Country, its people will cut their throats with first chance they get , and Arabs ain't completely have your back nor support you, so Al-Bakistani's I hope that with every small or large Attack we bomb TTP/AT in Afghanistan, we had the momentum and we lost it due to same BS, we keep repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results.