Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[PK781]

What benefits is there for Pakistan in this my dear brothers, think about it carefully what benefits will there be in this for Pakistan and the Pakistani citizens?

Especially Karachi port will be the biggest loser in all of this and Gwadar port.

By all means this is a massive own goal in the long term and Pakistanis can´t see thru this and celebrating own goals ´´Oh look we did some damage to some Afghan merchants´´ and trust me they are not the once you should target because they are adding percentages to the Pakistani economy.

If Afghan traders stop using Pakistani ports or stop trading with Pakistan or stop using any transit hubs inside Pakistan? Who will be the loser in this scenario, I want you to sit down and think over this.. Ofcourse Pakistan is the loser in this scenario while the Afghan merchants may take financial losses here and now in the short term but not in the long term it will be the Pakistani economy and Karachi port who will take the losses going forward.

They will move to Bandar Abbas or that new port Iran was building with India will now become a reality as the Afghans will switch their trade simply there for the long term and the Iranians won´t score own goals when it comes to trade or their economy.

Billions of dollars will just move to Chabahar Port or Bandar Abbas and into the Iranian economy plus India will benefit as their corridor will become a thing and they will benefit from connecting their economy to it.

The things this gov´t does suspiciously benefit always India as they have now made Chabahar Port a reality. No sane Afghan merchant will come back to Karachi

every Pakistani would be glad to get rid of anything afghan thru our country
Since you care so much about their pain, maybe allow your ports for their goods, they can drive the trucks to Saudia and back. Let them do that

I'm in favor of permanently blocking all their trade, let them take it elsewhere. Good riddance! why are their containers even showing up at karachi, they should fly in their goods thru other nations or from india directly without coming thru Pak

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I love this hawkish folk, a worthy son of a worthy father (those ICS officers had the brains, smartness and ball$ reminiscent of the civil servants serving an empire) ......

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[Dr khan]

Either die of thousands cut or learn from Turkey deploy, drones and create a bugfer zone of 5km even if that means villages have to go..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Either die of thousands cut or learn from Turkey deploy, drones and create a bugfer zone of 5km even if that means villages have to go..

Sheriyatin kesti'i parmak ajimaz - the finger that is cut by the Sheriyat doesn't cause pain....

 

[That_Guy]

Doesn't sound accurate though, civilian politicians have usually never cared about the security or foreign policy side of things while the army has. But I hope it's true.

I'm assuming to score political points.

 

[Aliso5]

I don't think number matter much. Pakistan will have to go for HVT in all out war along with border closing for anything but refugees going back.

Or continue with current situation for decades or centuries. Probably last chance to make a point to all afghandu/talibunds. Impose unbearable cost on Taliban, if they don't back down then their regime will not last long. Already some factions are making move in anticipation. Let this be lesson for all upcoming Kabul pashtunist regimes even if balkanization doesn't happen.

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Killing high value targets won't do much. Pakistan doesn't have ultra precise Intelligence like US. That's why we aren't able to kill any high value commander for years now. We Need to destroy their terror infrastructure. No guns means no fight. Let everyone in Afghanistan be free of Taliban, No taxes no government just a free land. May be we can even bring US leftover to Pakistan if don't want to destroy it.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan doesn't have ultra precise Intelligence like US.

history says otherwise

 

[Fatman17]

Stalemate persisted on Sunday at the Pakistan-Afghanistan talks in Istanbul, with the Afghan Taliban delegation appearing reluctant to take verifiable action against sanctuaries of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), and other militant groups operating from Afghan soil.

This was the second day of the dialogue, which stretched into Sunday after both sides failed to find common ground on the issue of ending terrorist safe havens in Afghanistan.

After nearly nine hours of intense discussions late into the night, Pakistani security officials said their delegation had presented its “final position” to the Afghan side, insisting that the Taliban regime must take “concrete and verifiable steps to eliminate cross-border terrorism from and inside Afghanistan”.



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[Aliso5]

history says otherwise

Come on US has a spy in every person's Smart phone. Does Pakistan have that??? Answer is no. Pak can't even build this capability even in next 2, 3 decades. Even All the previous TTP leadership were taken out by US drone strikes. We might have regional superior fire power but doesn't have superior intelligence. It's not easy to hit a cave man from a safe distance without precise intelligence.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Come on US has a spy in every person's Smart phone. Does Pakistan have that??? Answer is no. Pak can't even build this capability even in next 2, 3 decades. Even All the previous TTP leadership were taken out by US drone strikes. We might have regional superior fire power but doesn't have superior intelligence. It's not easy to hit a cave man from a safe distance without precise intelligence.

not saying US doesn't have that just saying Pakistan has immense amount of HUMINT in this region , its just difficult to kill guys in these mountains remember how long it took to get OBL . just recently we got entirety of HGB leadership , shame Mehsud got away but if this continues we will get them all .

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

According to media reports, even the Turkish Intelligence Chief, Prof Dr Ibrahim Kalin, had to leave the table at one point of time. Statehood is one thing, and the Ram Rajya of Hinduta Bharat's Last Afgan terrorists-for-hire are another thing....

By the by, the Turkish Intelligence Chief writes, composes and sings classical music...

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[Aliso5]

not saying US doesn't have that just saying Pakistan has immense amount of HUMINT in this region , its just difficult to kill guys in these mountains remember how long it took to get OBL . just recently we got entirety of HGB leadership , shame Mehsud got away but if this continues we will get them all .

HUMINT is useless and less precise in this digital age. There are hundreds of terrorist groups roaming around in KPK and BLN , they post regularly on social media yet no one is able to track and find them. they survive too long before they get killed and have already done enough damage to us. If it was US they won't be able to survive too long in their territory.

Also It'll be very difficult to target top leadership If Taliban again choose cave man way of life since they are in thousands now.

 

[hasssanali8998]

HUMINT is useless and less precise in this digital age.

no , HUMINT is still useful

here are hundreds of terrorist groups roaming around in KPK and BLN , they post regularly on social media yet no one is able to track and find them.

we do , but yes fia and nccia are not doing their job ,combating propaganda online

If it was US they won't be able to survive too long in their territory.

cant compare these situation .

hey survive too long before they get killed and have already done enough damage to us. If it was US they won't be able to survive too long in their territory.

because of the support they get from locals , yesterday saw a clip of cm kp hanging out with a known associate of ttp , you also have ptm and others publicly supporting talis .

 

[Night Memory]

every Pakistani would be glad to get rid of anything afghan thru our country
Since you care so much about their pain, maybe allow your ports for their goods, they can drive the trucks to Saudia and back. Let them do that

I'm in favor of permanently blocking all their trade, let them take it elsewhere. Good riddance! why are their containers even showing up at karachi, they should fly in their goods thru other nations or from india directly without coming thru Pak

someone tell @Abdulaziz that Chabar is dead, US has sanctioned it. Dream on little dreamer. We in Pakisfan have observed the Arab world’s ignorance and rather support for the Talibans against Pakistan. You want every Pakistani to support you in your causes but always have come short be it Kashmir or in our war against terror.

 

[Night Memory]

Stalemate persisted on Sunday at the Pakistan-Afghanistan talks in Istanbul, with the Afghan Taliban delegation appearing reluctant to take verifiable action against sanctuaries of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), and other militant groups operating from Afghan soil.

This was the second day of the dialogue, which stretched into Sunday after both sides failed to find common ground on the issue of ending terrorist safe havens in Afghanistan.

After nearly nine hours of intense discussions late into the night, Pakistani security officials said their delegation had presented its “final position” to the Afghan side, insisting that the Taliban regime must take “concrete and verifiable steps to eliminate cross-border terrorism from and inside Afghanistan”.



Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1951505

The article notes two big incursion attempts and Indians breaching ceasefire in Kashmir. Im telling you the khawarjis and their hindu friends are completely in this plan together and these talks are just being made to buy time until November hits. I am sure even our side is by now aware of this.