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Pakistan should focus on the potential capabilities sitting with the US DTRA office (Defense Threat Reduction Agency). For anyone in the Pakistani strategic circles, what this office entails is a clear and present danger to Pakistani strategic assets.

The US DTRA office is actively working on neutralization plans against a range of threats and Pakistan's nuclear program has got to be one of the priorities for them.

"There's an organization in the US called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, DTRA. DTRA does a lot of things for our nation, but DTRA is the world's leading expert on deeply buried underground targets.

In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed on something going on in Iran. For security purposes, I'm not going to share his name. He was shown some photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked like a major construction project in the mountains of Iran.

He was tasked to study this facility, work with the intelligence community to understand it, and he was soon joined by an additional teammate. For more than 15 years, this officer and his teammate lived and breathed this single target, Fordo, a critical element of Iran's covert nuclear weapons program.

He studied the geology. He watched the Iranians dig it out. He watched the construction, the weather, the discard material, the geology, the construction materials, where the materials came from. He looked at the vent shaft, the exhaust shaft, the electrical systems, the environmental control systems, every nook, every crater, every piece of equipment going in and every piece of equipment going out.

They literally dreamed about this target at night when they slept. They thought about it driving back and forth to work. And they knew from the very first days what this was for. You do not build a multi-layered underground bunker complex with centrifuges and other equipment in a mountain for any peaceful purpose.

They weren't able to discuss this with their family, their wives, their kids, their friends, but they just kept grinding it out. And along the way, they realized we did not have a weapon that could adequately strike and kill this target, so they began a journey to work with industry and other tacticians to develop the GBU-57. They tested it over and over again, tried different options, tried more after that.

They accomplished hundreds of test shots and dropped many full scale weapons against extremely realistic targets for a single purpose, kill this target at the time and place of our nation's choosing. And then, on a day in June of 2025, more than 15 years after they started their life's work, the phone rang and the president of the United States ordered the B-2 force that you've supported to go strike and kill this target........

.....And one last thing. Our adversaries around the world should know that there are other DTRA team members out there studying targets for the same amount of time, and will continue to do so."
 
It is amalgamation of words and phrases we have listened too many times in these PAF PR videos which are nothing more than personal glorification campaign of CAS instead of PAF team or as an organization. Every video has one theme... "CAS vision..." That's why they never highlight anything specific. You can watch last 5 videos where CAS met with various dignitaries in AHQ. almost every video is same.
maaf kerday bhai......ghalti hogayee Baber Sidhu shb sey....
 
Looks like PAF will be helping SAAF set up new training regime and repair/Overhaul their C-130s

first it was Belarus...then SAAF....interesting turn of events for PAF after May 7th.....Azerbaijan already in the PAF framework.......

meanwhile bhindians defending their shot down Rafales in Indonesia so France can save some face.....
 
18 Block-52s to upgrade to V
18 new Block-72s

36 - F-16s


use current relationships to push through in cash (trump knows we have it for that)

Insist that 120D is provided - They know India is just stringing them along and has no intention of buying US fighters anymore.

F-16s serve both as potent assets - and diplomatic connection allowing participation in NATO exercises
Excellent analysis and I think PAF would really want that.......and Lockheed can do 40-50% percent of the lobbying work for you as they get to keep the F-16 cash cows running.

Problem is without the V upgrades, BLK 52s, even though with still lots of hours to go would fall behind much more quickly in usefulness than the original BLK A/Bs did in terms of comparative enemy assets....

Also, can we ask the USA to allow PAF to convert one older F-16A(MLU) to a drone and fly to India so Indians can finally really shoot down Pakistani F-16 and come to peace with themselves?
 
Overhyped marketing efforts have ruined the perspective of normie observers. You can hardly be certain in an aircraft's superiority solely by citing it's experience in bombing unarmed people.

The only capability test worth caring about is against a near-peer adversary.
PAF with PL15s is not near peer adversary.....it is equal or better.

PL15s are what @MastanKhan ranted about in the previous version of this forum........May 7th proved that.

Supposedly superior MKIs and Rafales get targeted by a Temu missile.....and more.
 
18 Block-52s to upgrade to V
18 new Block-72s

36 - F-16s


use current relationships to push through in cash (trump knows we have it for that)

Insist that 120D is provided - They know India is just stringing them along and has no intention of buying US fighters anymore.

F-16s serve both as potent assets - and diplomatic connection allowing participation in NATO exercises
All depends what is being asked. If we want to get new platform from the US (an idea which has out lived its utility from strategic point of view), I will choose F-15EX even a single squadron along with major strike weapons like AGM-88 HARM, GBU-39 SDB etc and obviously latest A2A weapons like AIM-9X, AIM-120D. I will effectively close US MIC doors for India.
 


Hi,

The #3 point is MUTE---it has no value---.

A lesser number of superior weapons will decimate larger numbers of inferior weapons all the time every time---.

And PAF was NOT READY to turn the tables around---. PAF chickened out and turned away out of fear of what WOULD happen---.

Then there is a typical Pakistani air force show off of telling the enemy how to train---fight better so that YOU CAN KILL US EASILY---.

That is pathetic and disgusting---.

I want to ask---how stupid do these pakistani generals need to be to disclose how good they are and how bad the enemy is and disclose all their weaknesses for them to correct---.
 

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