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So looks like we can all agree now on both sides that :

1) balakot strike did not hit its target
2) no f16 lost…abhinandan should not have been given any medal . His silence during sindhoor says it all
3) no su30 lost otherwise a wreckage photo will have appeared on social media . Paf pilot should not have been given a TJ

Even Indian media are agreeing in 1 and 2 ..So truth does eventually come out
Despite attempts to equate the 2, there are some glaring differences Between the F-16 claimed by India and the Su30 claimed by Pakistan…
1. The Su30 shoot down was initially confirmed by Indian media but then quickly muzzled by Modi’s goons exactly the same as what happened last week
2. All missiles carried by the Mig 21 were still with the wreck so it can’t have shot anything down
 
You're stuck on balakot. We've moved on
Yea but important to set the facts straight . We should not be claiming any su30 in 2019 otherwise we lose credibility. Sqn ldr Hassan siddiqui should give his TJ back
 
I think Paracha was a die hard f16 pilot and very pro America because of extensive training in the US. He was also the air attaché in Washington for 2 years. My feeling is that he would have pushed for upgrading f16s rather than go for j10c. Either way PAF will have come out on top. I think he was side lined precisely because he was an f16 pilot ..if you noticed the past 4 air chiefs have been mirage pilots
Enough with the speculation, it happened for the best. The last two PAF air chiefs were F-16 pilots along with a few more.
 
Despite attempts to equate the 2, there are some glaring differences Between the F-16 claimed by India and the Su30 claimed by Pakistan…
1. The Su30 shoot down was initially confirmed by Indian media but then quickly muzzled by Modi’s goons exactly the same as what happened last week
2. All missiles carried by the Mig 21 were still with the wreck so it can’t have shot anything down
The issue with all Pakistan claims is BDA.

This isn’t WVR of 65 or 71 where gun cameras can be looked at.

Today equivalent is Radar images, missile telemetry and then human evidence.

The last part being the actual wreckage which is the only thing still remaining that corroborates it all.
 
The issue with all Pakistan claims is BDA.

This isn’t WVR of 65 or 71 where gun cameras can be looked at.

Today equivalent is Radar images, missile telemetry and then human evidence.

The last part being the actual wreckage which is the only thing still remaining that corroborates it all.

Yeah, kind of weird that the most reliable evidence for our kills comes from the smart phones and social media accounts of Indian civilians....
 
We are getting KJ-500 Awacs with j35 is it true?. We have already have saab erieyes many can erieyes integrate with j35 or its a 5th gen platform so KJ500 will be needed.
 
We are getting KJ-500 Awacs with j35 is it true?. We have already have saab erieyes many can erieyes integrate with j35 or its a 5th gen platform so KJ500 will be needed.

No news on any new KJ-500 AEW&C at all anywhere.
 
The issue with all Pakistan claims is BDA.

This isn’t WVR of 65 or 71 where gun cameras can be looked at.

Today equivalent is Radar images, missile telemetry and then human evidence.

The last part being the actual wreckage which is the only thing still remaining that corroborates it all.
Agreed but when you have more than one source for the same incident, adds substantially to the credibility. Eg Pakistan claims Su-30 kill and on same day Indian Media reports Su-30 shot down before withdrawing the reports. These sort of dots don’t even need joining but clearly the circumstances give hiding places, no matter how dubious to hide and deny. No different from what has happened recently, massive amount of pic, video evidence, analysed by independent & international experts on behalf of publications like Washington Post. who concluded that IAF jets including Ra-fail were shot down, crashes reported by India’s own media in the locations that Pakistan said the shot down jets fell — and you still have Indian members on this very forum like Harpy who deny it all.
 
Agreed but when you have more than one source for the same incident, adds substantially to the credibility. Eg Pakistan claims Su-30 kill and on same day Indian Media reports Su-30 shot down before withdrawing the reports. These sort of dots don’t even need joining but clearly the circumstances give hiding places, no matter how dubious to hide and deny. No different from what has happened recently, massive amount of pic, video evidence, analysed by independent & international experts on behalf of publications like Washington Post. who concluded that IAF jets including Ra-fail were shot down, crashes reported by India’s own media in the locations that Pakistan said the shot down jets fell — and you still have Indian members on this very forum like Harpy who deny it all.
You havw flat earthers as well - stop giving any interest in convincing idiots.
Just report if they start spamming with the same nonsense and we’ll take care of it.
 
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