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Ali Yusuf said:
You are right, they have been reassigned to CCS Mushaf, but not disbanded.
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Does seem weird having a dedicated CCS unit for a type with very limited numbers in service.

Even for DACT unsure what the benefits are for keeping a CCS unit, IAF now retiring the MIG-21

We could really use those pilots and engineers to beef up other units
 
Yasser76 said:
Does seem weird having a dedicated CCS unit for a type with very limited numbers in service.

Even for DACT unsure what the benefits are for keeping a CCS unit, IAF now retiring the MIG-21

We could really use those pilots and engineers to beef up other units
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Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail was impressed with the performance of the F-7PG. Thanks to its double delta wing and a more powerful engine than an F-7MP, it has the same sustained turn rate and a better instantaneous rate than the Thunder. Quite decent avionics during the time of its induction, equipped with the Grifo-MG radar and sidewinders. A good point defence fighter that is also integrated via Link-17.
 
Ali Yusuf said:
Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail was impressed with the performance of the F-7PG. Thanks to its double delta wing and a more powerful engine than an F-7MP, it has the same sustained turn rate and a better instantaneous rate than the Thunder. Quite decent avionics during the time of its induction, equipped with the Grifo-MG radar and sidewinders. A good point defence fighter that is also integrated via Link-17.
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Agree, but now maybe the very notion of point defence needs redefining no?

If it will be Bhramos or SCALP attacks and not heavily laden Jaguars with PGMs one sees little use of what was admittedly a good little fighter in its time
 
Yasser76 said:
Agree, but now maybe the very notion of point defence needs redefining no?

If it will be Bhramos or SCALP attacks and not heavily laden Jaguars with PGMs one sees little use of what was admittedly a good little fighter in its time
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theres some potential merit for their use as a training asset in other ways.

Here, the RAF uses draken's DA42's to simulate inbound cruise missiles and also UAV's

Potentially we could see F-7s being used for a similar role
 
arslank01 said:
theres some potential merit for their use as a training asset in other ways.

Here, the RAF uses draken's DA42's to simulate inbound cruise missiles.

Potentially we could see F-7s being used for a similar role
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Very good point
 
Yasser76 said:
Very good point
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Also, via the use of ACMI pods, its less about the host platform. You can effectively simulate anything with them. ACMI will gather telemetry, feed it down to a gcs, gcs operator will moderate the engagement. But, you can load up whatever data you want, you can turn an F-7 into an F-35, loaded with Meteor's, jamming your radar. Its totally up to you.

Guys like these private red air companies do exactly this. Old jets, able to represent high end adversaries.
 
Yasser76 said:
Agree, but now maybe the very notion of point defence needs redefining no?

If it will be Bhramos or SCALP attacks and not heavily laden Jaguars with PGMs one sees little use of what was admittedly a good little fighter in its time
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Those two are beyond the capabilities of any fighter that we have in our inventory. Not just F-7PG.

The HQ-9B, HQ-16, and Microwave Weapons will deal with them. We need more batteries of HQ-9B and HQ-16.
 
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