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[Yasser76]

Not narratives - look at his tweeter profile.

99% talks only about PAF... Like someone of PAF fan created the account

He has a historically close relationship with the PAF, PAF worked hard to work with many foreign journos. At times he has called out the PAF and highlighted errors and misreporting.

He also has a very similar relationship with RAF, Dutch and USAF. That is literally his job. It would sell many copies and make him more money if IAF let him see their side.....

Maybe instead of crying about it ask why IAF does not do similar outreach

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Indian logic: yayyyyyyyyy f-16 found, Alan Warnes
article is wrong!


they deserve Godi media!

one has to wonder, if what they see is wrong or wrong is what they see!

 

[Yasser76]

Not narratives - look at his tweeter profile.

99% talks only about PAF... Like someone of PAF fan created the account

Showing active from 2011, only 128 are followers.... Can't say more, saying anything - wasting a time

He is only following 128 people, he has 17k followers. Gosh it is difficult educating you.....

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Russia wants to buy back the two S-400 system that it sold to Turkey in 2020 for $2.5 billion dollars. Most of the Russian S-400 systems have either been destroyed by Ukraine or severely depleted due to the part shortages. Turkish S-400 system has not be deployed and now it needs updates. The Turkish acquisition of US built F-35 is delayed because it bought S-400 air defense from Russia since US refused the Patriot anti-missile defense systems. Now Turkey has leverage to re-enter the F-35 program and also buy the update F-16s.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

He is only following 128 people, he has 17k followers. Gosh it is difficult educating you.....

He is known to paf supporter from many years. As said nothing new. You will not find his tweeter post with any credibility..

For instead -



If this a a source for him to get the information, what do you expect - means speaking to airforce chief, he confirmed - so what would expected he would not repeat the claims..

As said, he known with no credibility.

This is a stupidity, like example any reporter spoken to IAF Chief and he. Claimed 5 af down by IAF, and the reporter happily tweeting it.... Here’s the nuance:

If a journalist only repeats what an Air Force Chief (or any authority figure) says, without checking facts, context, or offering independent analysis → that’s not journalism, that’s just acting as a messenger.

A credible, independent reporter would:

Quote the official statement, but

Add verification (cross-checking with evidence, other sources, satellite imagery, open-source intelligence, eyewitnesses, etc.)

Mention that “this is a claim” and not an independently verified fact.

What kind of neutral and independent reporter posts it - one sided tweets about one airforce

 

[Oscar]

He is known to paf supporter from many years. As said nothing new. You will not find his tweeter post with any credibility..

For instead -



If this a a source for him to get the information, what do you expect - means speaking to airforce chief, he confirmed - so what would expected he would not repeat the claims..

As said, he known with no credibility.

This is a stupidity, like example any reporter spoken to IAF Chief and he. Claimed 5 af down by IAF, and the reporter happily tweeting it.... Here’s the nuance:

If a journalist only repeats what an Air Force Chief (or any authority figure) says, without checking facts, context, or offering independent analysis → that’s not journalism, that’s just acting as a messenger.

A credible, independent reporter would:

Quote the official statement, but

Add verification (cross-checking with evidence, other sources, satellite imagery, open-source intelligence, eyewitnesses, etc.)

Mention that “this is a claim” and not an independently verified fact.

It’s ok. We couldn’t give a rats arse what you believe. Please don’t make all these efforts to log in, type all of this etc.
Just change your name to “Pakistanis are wrong”
And never log in again. We’ll record your beliefs and move on.

This is just wasting your time and even if you don’t care about ours I refuse to believe that you are so unqualified and ignorant that you simply don’t have anything better than PDF in your life that you could be doing right now.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

It’s ok. We couldn’t give a rats arse what you believe. Please don’t make all these efforts to log in, type all of this etc.
Just change your name to “Pakistanis are wrong”
And never log in again. We’ll record your beliefs and move on.

This is just wasting your time and even if you don’t care about ours I refuse to believe that you are so unqualified and ignorant that you simply don’t have anything better than PDF in your life that you could be doing right now.

Am I wrong - did I wrong about his allingment with PAF for decades?

I know his name from 5-6 years, nothing new for me the way he published the article... It's always this way only.

In the past month alone, I’ve completed four Microsoft trainings (each 5 hours daily, Monday to Friday), along with one Wiz and one Palo Alto training—all while continuing to manage my regular office responsibilities.

Currently, I’m also attending two AI-related trainings (9:00 AM–1:00 PM and 2:00 PM–6:00 PM) while simultaneously fulfilling my professional duties.

I mention this because you said I don’t have work. The fact that I come here simply shows that I value what PDF is, I don't access any other social media

 

[TallGuy]

Some french sources said it succeed dodging most of the PL15 fired, this is why some were found intact in the ground.

Frenchman! do not let me doubt your IQ please.

by the way - 8 x Rafale -- i told you so.

 

[Oscar]

Am I wrong - did I wrong about his allingment with PAF for decades?

I know his name from 5-6 years, nothing new for me the way he published the article... It's always this way only.

Shooting the messenger doesn’t make everything wrong.
In your historical opinion due to your origin and character everything Pakistan says is wrong.
So who gives a shit if you’re right.
Using your logic - your opinion on Alan is wrong because you are an Indian.

 

[TallGuy]

Am I wrong - did I wrong about his allingment with PAF for decades?

I know his name from 5-6 years, nothing new for me the way he published the article... It's always this way only.

you guys should fund him project - so that he stops and start promoting your narrative

 

[Oscar]

you guys should fund him project - so that he stops and start promoting your narrative

The difference is that they actually did all they can to fund Tom Cooper, fmr veterans - posting up to $35k for last minute work.

All PAF did was build an honest relationship with Alan, give him access to- flying time and tikkas over the years and it paid off.

No one doubts Alan’s bias but at least he also gets data and info to back up his bias.
India could not even provide that for their propaganda campaign

 

[Oscar]

IAF seems so confident with Rafale that they want to order 114 more !
Some french sources said it succeed dodging most of the PL15 fired, this is why some were found intact in the ground.

And no, India has not the sole choice of purchasing Rafale. F21, SH18, EF2000, Su35, Mig35, Gripen E are viable options. USA made hard pressure to sell one of its birds.

India’s choice is based on constraints. It already bought the Rafale - spent its billions training on it. Now it could switch to EF but the investment it made in it especially for IN means it is already stuck with the Rafale as platform of record.

Your logic is so routed in your Indian living in France background that you cannot reconcile that the Rafale is a good platform which was simply employed poorly by India.

 

[TallGuy]

The difference is that they actually did all they can to fund Tom Cooper, fmr veterans - posting up to $35k for last minute work.

All PAF did was build an honest relationship with Alan, give him access to- flying time and tikkas over the years and it paid off.

No one doubts Alan’s bias but at least he also gets data and info to back up his bias.
India could not even provide that for their propaganda campaign

I happy atleast some details are coming out

3 x S-400 SAM Batteries (Adampur/Nal-Bikanir/Bhuj)

they way he describes air battle, contracts given to J10CE/JF17 Blk 3 with 72-78 IAF aircraft its mathematically impossible that number of kills as claimed. i would be far higher

i am happy at least there is a rumbling of 8 x rafales lost.

 

[Yasser76]

He is known to paf supporter from many years. As said nothing new. You will not find his tweeter post with any credibility..

For instead -



If this a a source for him to get the information, what do you expect - means speaking to airforce chief, he confirmed - so what would expected he would not repeat the claims..

As said, he known with no credibility.

This is a stupidity, like example any reporter spoken to IAF Chief and he. Claimed 5 af down by IAF, and the reporter happily tweeting it.... Here’s the nuance:

If a journalist only repeats what an Air Force Chief (or any authority figure) says, without checking facts, context, or offering independent analysis → that’s not journalism, that’s just acting as a messenger.

A credible, independent reporter would:

Quote the official statement, but

Add verification (cross-checking with evidence, other sources, satellite imagery, open-source intelligence, eyewitnesses, etc.)

Mention that “this is a claim” and not an independently verified fact.

What kind of neutral and independent reporter posts it - one sided tweets about one airforce

AFM Editor posts a Pakistani pice = no credibility. Your best argument against the world's most well respected military aviation journo.

You are of course right, credibility is with Arnab, Shiv Aroor and IAF CAS.....

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Shooting the messenger doesn’t make everything wrong.
In your historical opinion due to your origin and character everything Pakistan says is wrong.
So who gives a shit if you’re right.
Using your logic - your opinion on Alan is wrong because you are an Indian.

I’m simply questioning his neutral credibility—nothing more.

If a genuinely independent and reputable media outlet had published such claims, then I might consider them credible.

But from what I’ve seen, the most independent outlets only reported with caution, using terms like “Pakistan claims” or “India claims”—and that’s exactly the right approach.

A few reports did mention confirmation from neutral sources, but even then, they framed it cautiously, saying “2–3 aircraft” rather than giving absolute numbers.

I haven’t seen any credible independent media outlet confirm the downing of six planes. Most just quoted the claims and referred to Trump’s statement or Pakistan government.