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Raj-Hindustani said:
This is what Chatgpt says - isn't funny, I just noticed it - I just searched " Alan Warnes is he credible?"

What I was saying - chatgpt is only supporting to me here.
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I can make Gemini believe that India is invaded and now controlled by China. Would you believe that too?

The point members here are trying to show is that Alan Warnes is given exclusive rights to some data. To him, it made sense and he published it. For a reputed aviation and publisher of magazine, that is as truthful as it can get when compared to Tom Cooper and Afterburner Max.

He even put his name on the line and posted aerial numbers of the Rafales take down. If IAF and their fanboys are so concerned with their reputation, now is the big chance to prove Pakistan wrong and prove them in flying condition.

Whether you want to believe it in the end is up to you. Just remember, you are in Pakistan Defence Forum , and you are still given a voice here to air your views.

If if we were in BR or Indian Reddit forums, we would have been banned for even having an opposing view.
 
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Master Chief said:
Sir, Suryakumar Yadav was explicitly deployed to give Pakistan the "response" (his words, not mine) that Rafales could not.

Win by 7 wickets is a befitting response to 7 downed aircraft and hindustani qom is now satisfied.
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I was genuinely impressed with the young team, even putting aside India's recently screw loose moment to strike us. But now I wish the team will start choking on their own words for including politics into sports.
 
Fatman17 said:
The PAF refrained from attacking further than 2,000km (1,250 miles) away because it felt it could start an all-out war.
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Maybe he wanted to say 200 km instead of 2000 but i mean Seriously??Both km AND miles figure is wrong? Does anyone edits this stuff?

Unless we actually thought that while attacking Delhi, Bombay and Calcutta would be fine with the enemy but attacking Assam would trigger all out war!😂
 
Corax said:
One thing that really amused me was the PAF claiming that range of the PL15 is 190km, and then saying the maximum kill was at 190km lol :) some very good psyops going on there ;-)
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I was thinking the same. The stupid indians may still believe this and next time againt got a bloody nose.
 
Starlord said:
On a side note, Did IAF ever acknowledge the number of how many fighter jets they lost ? I mean from their side it could 1-2 but did they even issue a official statement that these are fighters we lost on these locations?
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Never ask a hoe her body counts and never ask IAF about their fighter jets losses.
 
Oscar said:
A few things:
  • SPECTRA is a multi-spectral electronic warfare (EW) suite with radar warning, missile and laser warning, digital jamming, and decoys.
  • EW systems similar to SPECTRA exist on Eurofighter Typhoon (Praetorian DASS), F-15EX (EPAWSS), and F-16 (AIDEWS) which combine radar warning, missile warning, laser warning, jamming, and decoy dispensers.
  • It relies on detecting missile radar emissions early, jamming them with Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) jamming, and using decoys for protection.
  • Against a PL-15 using datalink guidance, the missile keeps its radar seeker off during the midcourse, so SPECTRA cannot detect or jam it early.
  • The PL-15 activates its frequency-hopping AESA radar seeker only about 5-8 seconds before impact (terminal phase), leaving SPECTRA too little time to react effectively.
  • Homing-on-jam (HOJ) capability of the missile means jamming can even guide it closer, nullifying barrage jamming defenses during terminal phase.
  • Without networked sensor support or airborne early warning, SPECTRA’s standalone effectiveness diminishes drastically.
  • PL-15’s datalink midcourse guidance and late seeker activation largely negate the traditional advantages offered by Rafale’s SPECTRA system.
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Do we have a similar kind of EW suite for our J-10CE and JF-17C?
We may have an externel pod for JF17C and do J-10 have internel EW comparable to Rafale Spectra?
 
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Yasser76 said:
Wow! Will be a lot of cope today. So we got serial numbers of 4, and Warnes adds another 4 have not returned to service. So possibly 8 Rafales out of action!?
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it's a Balatkar on the prestige and self-confidence of Dassault! The French take a great pride in their sophistication, intricacy and complicated thought process. Little did they know they're having IAF pilots with an overwhelming temperament showing fearful traits being put against the PAF pilots with feisty traits. It's a simple matter of behavioral genetics 101....
 
Falcon26 said:
1. Rafale
1. SU-30mki
1. Mirage-2000
1. MiG-29
1. Heron Uav

Are the verifiable losses IAF sustained against PAF. Everything else requires a proof.
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The proof lies in the IAF's being grounded for 2 days and avoiding further A2A combats. If it's due to only one Rafale being downed it's even more embarrassing for 1.4b folks, whose religious redemption lies in Pakistan's perdition....
 
The one question on my mind since May 6–10, 2025, is this: We were on high alert and had observed the deployment of large Indian jets to the northern bases, and we remained alert on the day of the IAF mission. So, when they launched air-launched missiles, why didn't we intercept them and instead allow them to hit our nine sites? I am aware that the response time for interception was very short, but does that mean that whenever we are attacked by air-launched missiles such as SCALP-EG, BrahMos, or HAMMER, we will be unable to intercept them due to the very limited time available? Or did we deliberately let them hit so that we could later justify our own actions?

on that 6/7th may we intercepted none? is it due to our own assets were also airborne ready to target the IAF assets that released payloads? to avoid our own attrition? or is there any other reason for zero interception at that night?

@Oscar @arslank01 @JamD @Bilal @Quwa @farooqbhai @Panzerkiel @side-winder
 
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BonPlan said:
Difficult to show the wreck of such a speedy missile if it has been destroyed in the sky. Pieces are to be found in a large part of the ground.
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And even that wasn't shown.
 
Tariq Habib Afridi said:
The one question on my mind since May 6–10, 2025, is this: We were on high alert and had observed the deployment of large Indian jets to the northern bases, and we remained alert on the day of the IAF mission. So, when they launched air-launched missiles, why didn't we intercept them and instead allow them to hit our nine sites? I am aware that the response time for interception was very short, but does that mean that whenever we are attacked by air-launched missiles such as SCALP-EG, BrahMos, or HAMMER, we will be unable to intercept them due to the very limited time available? Or did we deliberately let them hit so that we could later justify our own actions?

on that 6/7th may we intercepted none? is it due to our own assets were also airborne ready to target the IAF assets that released payloads? to avoid our own attrition? or is there any other reason for zero interception at that night?

@Oscar @arslank01 @JamD @Bilal @Quwa @farooqbhai @Panzerkiel @side-winder
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A good answer to your inquiry is given by Selchuk Bayraktar (it's dubbed in English). His motto is simple: offense is the best defense. No amount of AD is enough. Your survivability lies in your unbounded ability to offense with an infinite capacity to absorb pains. Even when the Ottoman Empire was going down a one-third of its male folks embraced Shahadat...

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