Pakistan and Kuwait discuss expanded defence pact, sources say

[Owaiz]

It's up to Pakistan to LOOK AFTER OUR OWN INTERESTS

If you dont play the game you can't win any prizes

Someone else will take the roll, others will then get preferential treatment for their own population.
They will get the investment and security cooperation and funding

Our time simply cannot be spent trying to police our ethnocentric idiot population all the time

So, you want to sell your water and fire hoses to your neighbours when your own house is on fire ?

 

[El Sidd]

I'm talking about the elite class that rules the country and that is my view of them.

Pakistani are independent minded but not those who rule them. Elite who taking orders from aliens.

Nice one stone two birds strategy. This way you can take potshots at the State of Pakistan yet seem apologetic to the revolutionary cause of the suppressed masses.

Maybe you can convince PAKISTANFORVER that they are genetically different too.

 

[hussain0216]

So, you want to sell your water and fire hoses to your neighbours when your own house is on fire ?

Nooooo

I want to create alliances with our neighbors to obtain enough water and fire hoses for any future eventuality

And remember as a nation of 250 million, our deaths from terrorism tend to be in the few hundred per year

 

[HAIDER]

Nice one stone two birds strategy. This way you can take potshots at the State of Pakistan yet seem apologetic to the revolutionary cause of the suppressed masses.

Maybe you can convince PAKISTANFORVER that they are genetically different too.

Yes, there are Two or Three Pakistan..

 

[RescueRanger]

So, you want to sell your water and fire hoses to your neighbours when your own house is on fire ?

This is the part most people are glossing over. The fact that we have troubles inside Pakistan and on our borders that also require corrective actions.

Now, one thing is certain, we already have a document between Kuwait and Pakistan, what changes will be made?

A lot of unknowns, and I think before we all jump the gun we should wait for official information on this.

And now I know some here do not follow the official narrative, but like it or not we have a government and they call the shots.

 

[Owaiz]

Nooooo

I want to create alliances with our neighbors to obtain enough water and fire hoses for any future eventuality

And remember as a nation of 250 million, our deaths from terrorism tend to be in the few hundred per year

The Iranians are not stupid. They know that a defence pact between Pakistan and Kuwait at this stage will be directed against them and them alone and will react accordingly . The borders with India and Afghanistan are already extremely hostile. Do you want to open another external front in addition to the numerous internal and external ones that are already open.

 

[El Sidd]

We have our weaknesses, but we also have our strengths

If you want to change our future, then you have got to act

If by strengths you mean a young unemployed tsunami, and by weakness you mean that we cannot put a price on their heads?

No we don't want to change our future because we don't know what it is, but we definitely want to change our immediate present.

State has been selling a water war for years now, it needs to secure resources for that, go find some Liaquat willing to get shot for it by the Hashashin creed.

 

[RescueRanger]

The Iranians are not stupid. They know that a defence pact between Pakistan and Kuwait at this stage will be directed against them and them alone and will react accordingly . The borders with India and Afghanistan are already extremely hostile. Do you want to open another external front in addition to the numerous internal and external ones that are already open.

I don't think Hussain talking on PDF is making government decisions, he is just sharing his opinion.

Allow him the chance to do so. And Pakistanis are well aware of what geostrategic threats we face...

 

[hussain0216]

The Iranians are not stupid. They know that a defence pact between Pakistan and Kuwait at this stage will be directed against them and them alone and will react accordingly . The borders with India and Afghanistan are already extremely hostile. Do you want to open another external front in addition to the numerous internal and external ones that are already open.

Our relations with Iran are closer then they have ever been,

What's better for Iran?

The Zionists influencing these Nations against Iran, or Pakistan trying to bring the GCC and Iran together

 

[Watandar]

Why would a PAKISTANI need to rely on AI to tell us what our weKnesses are?

What are we even talking about????

I was responding to a member who is not a Pakistani. There are now two ways to get an answer to a question online.

One is to ,as you specified, go to a number of related publications or websites and read them all, then form an answer.

The other is to prompt an AI agent that has already consumed these publications for the answer. The way you prompt it is important. It is also possible to list the publications you want the AI to focus on and then provide the answer.

The AI path, despite initial resistance, is predicted to become the dominant way people get information online in the coming years.

 

[El Sidd]

Yes, there are Two or Three Pakistan..

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There can be 250 million Pakistans, it's an ideological state after all.

If you are arguing that sending men to a conflict to save people from commiting suicide due to economic desperation at home, please feel free to protest for it.

 

[RescueRanger]

I was responding to a member who is not a Pakistani. There are now two ways to get an answer to a question online.

One is to ,as you specified, go to a number of related publications or websites and read them all, then form an answer.

The other is to prompt an AI agent that has already consumed these publications for the answer. The way you prompt it is important. It is also possible to list the publications you want the AI to focus on and then provide the answer.

The AI path, despite initial resistance, is predicted to become the dominant way people get information online in the coming years.

I think we are deraling the thrust of this conversation with this talk about AI .

You want to use AI, you do you. But this thread has multiple Pakistanis. Please dot. Recommend AI to them when we can point them to better sources or even give them our LIVED experience.

Now back to the topic at hand.

 

[Owaiz]

Our relations with Iran are closer then they have ever been,

What's better for Iran?

The Zionists influencing these Nations against Iran, or Pakistan trying to bring the GCC and Iran together

How can Pakistan bring Kuwait and Iran together by signing a defence pact with Kuwait and comitting to its defence against Iranian attacks ?

 

[hussain0216]

How can Pakistan bring Kuwait and Iran together by signing a defence pact with Kuwait and comitting to its defence against Iranian attacks ?

We can do it

We can also fcuk over the Afghans and indians whilst doing it

 

[r3alist]

@RescueRanger sir, I fully accept your scepticism but to my mind the larger picture is Pakistan is being green lit to have a more expanded role within the middle East because if America's grand vision is changing then so do other parts of the world have to adapt, this necessarily means that India is peripheral to the u.s vision going forward and Pakistan is the best candidate to help fill certain military and geopolitical voids


There are a few points just to support this, these within the last 18 months
-the IMF redefining Pakistan with the middle Eastern Nations, so economically Pakistan is now primarily seen as more connected to a greater middle East

-the Americans seemingly able to only say positive things about Pakistan
The Americans upgrading f-16s immediately after sindy
- Pakistan somehow finding its way as mediator for Libya lol
-Iran playing very nice outwardly with Pakistan as well
-the whole mediation publicity


For so much to happen in such a short period will have a lot of supporters behind the scenes, this suggests a G2 consensus where America is retreating to its own hemisphere by and large


And also note that the Saudis have not really lifted a finger against Iran, no one seems to praise this? If they show no sign of attacking Iran then Pakistan can breathe easy

Therefore before we jump into war scenarios we may well be describing something that's not actually being discussed, propaganda can be effective when it diverts a discussion to disasters and peril.



If you accept most of this then really Pakistan kind of has no choice because it's the least worst option as always

My biggest concern would be how Iran fits into a future security architecture and expectations on recognition of Israel, beyond that any future war with India is likely to be a technology-led rather than manpower, it's up to Pakistan to place my to get return benefits