Pakistan begins commercial shipbuilding after four decades, official says

[Feroze]

Need to build Pakistan in such a way that, China and Saudi Arabia start caring for Pakistan. This will only happen when we can offer those two countries something they need.

 

[Pakistan First]

The “Gwadar was Pakistan’s dream since the 1960s” narrative is adorable like a bedtime story for people who mistake talking for doing.
Pakistan didn’t “conceive” Gwadar; Pakistan daydreamed about Gwadar the same way it daydreams about making Lahore look like Paris. Spoiler: neither happened.

1. Pakistan’s Gwadar ‘vision’ was a 50‑year nap.

Yes, Pakistan bought Gwadar in 1958.
Yes, Bhutto pitched it to the U.S. in 1973.
And yes, governments scribbled “Gwadar Port” in planning documents in the 1990s.

But here’s the punchline….
Pakistan built nothing except a tiny fish harbor in 1988.
That’s not vision, that’s procrastination with a flag on it.

2. Bhutto begging the U.S. Navy wasn’t ‘strategy.’ It was ‘please build this for us.’

If Gwadar was a national priority, Pakistan would’ve built it.
Instead, Bhutto offered the U.S. Navy access to Gwadar like a clearance sale.
The U.S. still preferred Iran’s Chabahar.
That’s how “strategic” Pakistan’s pitch was.

3. The 1990s plans were the usual Pakistani specialty: paperwork with zero execution.

Sanctions didn’t stop Pakistan from building:

• nuclear weapons
• motorways
• airports
• naval bases
• expansions at Karachi and Port Qasim

But somehow Gwadar was “impossible” because of sanctions?
Right. And Lahore is “Paris.”

4. China didn’t join a Pakistani dream, China filled a Pakistani vacuum.

Musharraf “pitched” Gwadar to China because Pakistan had no money, no capacity, and no plan.
China provided the engineering, the strategy, and the bulk of the financing.
Pakistan contributed… patriotic speeches.

And let’s drop the fairy tale about “iron brother.”
China’s loans are not charity.
They’re high‑interest, collateral‑heavy, and never forgiven loans, only refinanced. China is a ruthless businessman who brings a calculator, not flowers.

5. Lahore‑Paris syndrome: Pakistan’s national hobby of delusion.

Billions were poured into Lahore to “make it Paris.”
After all that spending, Lahore still can’t compete with mid‑tier Iranian cities like Shiraz or Mashhad, let alone Tehran.
But sure, tell me more about how Pakistan “conceived” Gwadar.

Having said that, recent statements of government is even strange, Pakistan will hit $100B exports by 2035.
Sure, and I’ll be the next CEO of SpaceX.

Forum isn't a dick measuring contest. If you were wrong on a specific part then simply acknowledging that and moving on is the best thing. That's how you will learn things.

You specifically wrote "Pakistan did not envisioned it". That is plain and simply wrong factually. Pakistan bought Gwadar for a purpose. secondly General Musharraf approached the Chinese and pitched Gawadar to them. It was NOT the other way around. So it would not have a big deal to accept your mistake and move on. Why aknowledging is so difficult for some people ?? I spent my precious time to put up facts. I specifically mentioned in my reply that "partly correct but wrong on conceived part".

The funds on nuclear etc, well dear survival takes always precedent. Nukes were matter of our survival. That is not a discussion anyways. I am not even discussing Why we didn't built it, We should have done this or that. That is not even part of my discussion. I was very specific and very targetted on part of "conception". It was Pakistan's idea and not the chinese. God! it has become a sin to share knowledge. Healthy way is to say Thanks for correcting that bit and move on.

I had said in the past in naval forums that we never prioritized naval bases and more ports. We should have done that. I have also talked about importance of these. But That is NOT a discussion point here. Point was very specific about "conception". It was 100% Pakistan's conceived. We bought it, We approached American, We approached Chinese. It leaves not a shred of doubt about this point anymore. Learn and move on please. Its not that hard. Thank you