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Pakistan CRAZY Taxes on Middle Class will Push Millions to Leave

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khan_patriot

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Bull*hit.
Life is tough but not that much to migrate insanely.
I love my city (Lahore), its life, Its food, its streets, its roads, its people can't imagine living in a strange land, with strange people strange food, strange customs. Foolish Idea.
I belong to the middle class but still prefer living Pakistan on every other country out there. For me living in your home country place city where your forefathers are buried (one day i too joins them besides) is a luxury who only afford by fortunate people, Not runaway gypsies.
Happy to see I am not the only one who shares this sentiment.
 

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@Tameem bhai,

Although I am not a Pakistani, I understand your sentiments. I was born in India and I hope I will be consigned to the five elements here only in good time.

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Pakistan should file bankruptcy, it is pointless to pay debt-interest an extreme tax burden on the people of Pakistan and it's never ending story. Plus IPP payments is another burden on this nation, thanks to Nawaz Shariff.
Grade 1 - 16 pay 25 percent more tax. Rest from 17 and above scot free
 

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Pakistan finance minister warns taxes must rise to break the bailout cycleFormer JPMorgan banker says Islamabad must ‘get real’ as it seeks 24th IMF packagePakistan’s finance minister Muhammad Aurangzeb joined the government after an international banking career, including at JPMorgan in Singapore © Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty ImagesPakistan finance minister warns taxes must rise to break the bailout cycle on x (opens in a new window)Pakistan finance minister warns taxes must rise to break the bailout cycle on facebook (opens in a new window)Pakistan finance minister warns taxes must rise to break the bailout cycle on linkedin (opens in a new window)Savecurrent progress 99%Humza Jilani and Farhan Bokhari in IslamabadJULY 6 202456Print this pageUnlock the Editor’s Digest for freeRoula Khalaf, Editor of the FT, selects her favourite stories in this weekly newsletter.Pakistan’s forthcoming IMF bailout “will not be our last” if the government fails to significantly boost tax revenue, the country’s finance minister has warned in the wake of a budget that seeks to reset the country’s ailing economy. Muhammad Aurangzeb said he was “relatively confident” of reaching a staff-level agreement with the IMF this month on a loan, which his ministry has previously pegged at between $6 and $8bn. “But it will not be our last fund programme if we don’t bring our tax revenues up,” he told the Financial Times in an interview.Aurangzeb, a former career banker, was appointed by Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif in March to steer one of Asia’s most troubled economies, which has been grappling with double-digit inflation, sluggish growth and bare-bones foreign reserves. Pakistan narrowly avoided default last year with the help of a $3bn IMF emergency loan, which expired in April.He announced a tax-heavy budget last month aimed at shoring up public revenue and satisfying the IMF, which has long demanded Islamabad improve tax collection among other politically unpopular measures such as cutting energy subsidies.The budget aims to raise Rs13tn ($46.6bn) by next July, a roughly 40 per cent increase from the current financial year, to bring down a ruinous debt burden that has caused 57 per cent of government revenue to be swallowed by interest payments.The tax rises will mostly fall on salaried workers, who comprise a relatively small part of Pakistan’s mostly informal economy, as well as some retail and export businesses. The budget also threatened punitive measures for income tax avoiders, including restrictions on mobile phones, gas and electricity access and the ability to fly abroad. Before joining the government, Aurangzeb had a 35-year career in international banking, including at ABN Amro, Citigroup and most recently JPMorgan, where he led the Asia-Pacific corporate bank in Singapore. He returned to Pakistan in 2018 to take over as chief executive of Habib Bank, the country’s largest lender.There are some recent signs that the economy is turning a corner, at least in the short-term.Inflation, which reached as high as 38 per cent in May 2023, has eased to about 12.6 per cent last month. Central bank reserves — which dipped in February 2023 below $3bn, less than three weeks’ worth of imports — are now above $9bn. The economy contracted last year, but has returned to modest growth. “The direction of travel is positive, and investors are showing confidence in the stock market,” said Aurangzeb, referring to the KSE100 index, which is one of Asia’s best-performing year to date.Still, the government faces a considerable challenge in putting Pakistan on the path for longer-term growth and debt sustainability, he said.Pakistan’s debt has soared since the mid-2000s, as authorities failed to invest a gusher of loans from international bondholders and countries including China and Gulf nations into productive, export-oriented sectors. Instead, the country remains reliant on imports, forcing Islamabad to borrow to pay off existing and accumulating debts, Aurangzeb said.“We need to create the capacity to repay” loans, Aurangzeb said. “As long as this economy stays import-based, what happens is the moment it heats up . . . we run out of dollars [and] we have to go back to the lender of last resort on our knees.”Sharif has travelled recently to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and China to solicit investments on top of the IMF programme, which would be Pakistan’s 24th with the multilateral lender.“It’s about time we get real,” Aurangzeb said, pointing to Gulf investors’ demands of equity and board seats. “The ball is in our court to provide bankable, investable projects.” The finance minister also slammed a reputation for corruption at the Federal Board of Revenue, Pakistan’s tax collection agency. “People don’t want to deal with the tax authority because of corruption, because of harassment, because of people asking for speed money, facilitation money,” Aurangzeb said. “That’s not sustainable.” RecommendedNews in-depthPakistan's economyHow Pakistan’s economy fell into crisis — in charts“I empathise with the pain people will feel, I was one of the highest taxpayers, at least in the banking sector,” he added. Along with the rest of Sharif’s cabinet, Aurangzeb chose to forgo his government salary as well as forfeiting a Dutch citizenship he gained while working in Amsterdam.The budget has drawn criticism across the political spectrum, including from the Sharif government’s coalition partners, which it relies on after a disputed election in February. The backlash risks deepening an already volatile political environment that has seen Pakistan cycle through eight finance ministers in the past six years.“We do not have five years for our programme,” Aurangzeb said. “We have to start showing, start delivering, in the next two to three months.”

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Pakistan should file bankruptcy, it is pointless to pay debt-interest an extreme tax burden on the people of Pakistan and it's never ending story. Plus IPP payments is another burden on this nation, thanks to Nawaz Shariff.
Grade 1 - 16 pay 25 percent more tax. Rest from 17 and above scot free

Live within your means
 

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Pakistan should file bankruptcy, it is pointless to pay debt-interest an extreme tax burden on the people of Pakistan and it's never ending story. Plus IPP payments is another burden on this nation, thanks to Nawaz Shariff.
Grade 1 - 16 pay 25 percent more tax. Rest from 17 and above scot free
There is no such thing as 'file bankruptcy' for a country. What you are suggesting is Pakistan should default on its debt. if that happens:

(1) if the external debt is repudiated, pretty much immediately, all exporters to Pakistan will stop sending anything to Pakistan. Immediate impact will be shortage of petroleum products. With that, the economy will come to a standstill. Then other shortages like drugs, medical supplies etc., will occur.

(2) if internal debt is repudiated, pretty much all the banks will go under. With that, people's savings and deposits will evaporate. There will be major social unrest when people realize they can't withdraw their money, which they though is safe in banks.

These things are not new; most recently, they have happened in Lebanon, Syria, Venezuela etc., The results have not been good. Those countries have not been able to return to normalcy. Sovereign default is not like personal bankruptcy where you can file Chapter 7 and then go back and work somewhere to start a new life.



 

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There is no such thing as 'file bankruptcy' for a country. What you are suggesting is Pakistan should default on its debt. if that happens:

(1) if the external debt is repudiated, pretty much immediately, all exporters to Pakistan will stop sending anything to Pakistan. Immediate impact will be shortage of petroleum products. With that, the economy will come to a standstill. Then other shortages like drugs, medical supplies etc., will occur.

(2) if internal debt is repudiated, pretty much all the banks will go under. With that, people's savings and deposits will evaporate. There will be major social unrest when people realize they can't withdraw their money, which they though is safe in banks.

These things are not new; most recently, they have happened in Lebanon, Syria, Venezuela etc., The results have not been good. Those countries have not been able to return to normalcy. Sovereign default is not like personal bankruptcy where you can file Chapter 7 and then go back and work somewhere to start a new life.




I doubt, much impact. In the modern era, Russia declared bankruptcy in the late nineties, and in 2001, Argentina also declared bankruptcy.
 

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I doubt, much impact. In the modern era, Russia declared bankruptcy in the late nineties, and in 2001, Argentina also declared bankruptcy.
Russia default is a special case due to western sanctions. It has a smaller population, practically sitting on a gas tank and a strong industrial base and well-developed human capital. Still, they are suffering through shortages of imported goods etc. Argentina was a wealthy country before mismanagement drove it to ground. Now, poverty is rampant, currency is useless (the economy has become dollarized for middle and upper classes. only the poor use peso due to very high inflation). Still, it is a country with smaller population, vast agricultural resources and high level of human development.

The more appropriate comparisons may be Lebanon (times 40) and Egypt (times 2).
 

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Some people are getting Electricity bills that are more than their monthly
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