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Arslan sb,

but the ukrainians belive a ABM system

I believe IND's Kush system is an adaption from the existing ABM system we have. Is my understanding correct?

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This is the same type of retard cope like Pakistanis who pretend the BrahMos is a flying chicken that can do no damage.

1. Your airforce is pathetic if it can't carry out simple strikes against non-military targets near the border without doing a SEAD campaign even despite possessing SOW and other advanced tech.

2. Ground based air defence systems had little to do with your airforce humiliation anyway, it was airborne assets that simply outclassed your air force.

It's why you sat down for 2 days like little bitches silent on your losses and then went on a BrahMos firing spree, which was your only option at saving face. You are basically implying the Indian Air Force is incapable of carrying out any mission like a competent force the moment it faces any mild resistance by an opposing force. It's a more embarrassing excuse than admitting your failures.
After reading this post , all of your scaremongering is forgiven......
 
Bilkul!........Iraani's have punk'd em time n again along wid their AL-Yahuday/ Sawdi / GCC toady.

How many times now?

Good ghaaddh how many times punk'd em all no?
Please take the Iranian lollypop out of your mouth and then talk..... ✌️
 
@alphapak

Pakistan has Babur cruise missiles, but they did not use them.

Why not?

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Babur is a subsonic cruise missile and looking at the strength of current Indian Air defence systems Babur would have been obliterated..... hence they didn't take risk.....
 
Why can't we use the BrahMos strength against itself? The faster a missile, the less manoeuvrable it is in a given time. It's plain physics.

BrahMos is primarily a line of sight missile. Given that the likely ingress is from the east (India) or south (Indian Navy), we should be using mountains or artificial fortifications as shields in those directions.

There is the off chance that India could use their base in Tajikistan or get creative with Afghanistan, but that can be taken into account.
There's no Indian military base in Tajikistan anymore....
Few years back India had such base and Mig29s were stationed but it's already shut down.....
 
The ONLY way to deter India is through assured offensive retaliation. If they destroy one of our airbases, we destroy three of theirs. If the Indians destroy PAF on the ground, that crosses a nuclear red line and we will do suttee of Bharat Mata.

To do this we need to shorten our response time and delegate launch authority to junior ranks the minute tensions rise, instead of waiting for indians to attack.
During kargil crisis, Bill Clinton called Atal Bihari Bajpayee and said Pakistan was fuelling its nuclear missiles.

Answer of Atal Bihari Bajpayee was simple :
"If Pakistan uses nuclear weapons, 'कल का सूरज नहीं देखेगा, पाकिस्तान'
Pakistan won't see the sunrise of next morning again "
 
Only an Indian can argue that it was a victory as 4 planes were lost not 6. Clowns.
Yaa, since it is one Rafale and not 3.
1-2 Mig29 and no Su-30
one Mirage 2000 ( through fratricide)

And all because of faulty RoE but that was needed for diplomatic reasons. And also the lost jets can be easily replaced.
 
A lot of members are of the view that Op Bunyan Al Masroos was started very late. Please note that this operation was in the form of big scale attacks by Fatah missiles. The amount of weapons fired was more than 1965 war in whole. That means a lot.

But before this Op Masroor was declared, Pakistan had already launched waves of drones in DEAD and SEAD role. This had happened from 08-09 May. The AD this side was fully active on both these nights and interceptions were taking place all across the IB. The plan was probably to soften AD and create gaps before main operation is started.

The main choice of weapon Fatah appears to be wrong. The attempt seemed to be to annihilate the areas under attack.

Instead of Fatah something more precise may have worked better.
 
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During kargil crisis, Bill Clinton called Atal Bihari Bajpayee and said Pakistan was fuelling its nuclear missiles.

Answer of Atal Bihari Bajpayee was simple :
"If Pakistan uses nuclear weapons, 'कल का सूरज नहीं देखेगा, पाकिस्तान'
Pakistan won't see the sunrise of next morning again "
Yep , Indians are so scary.....any chance you can deflate your two inches of Weiner ?
 
GHQ is not dumb, but it is limited by sanctions and the all important dolla.
Don't take this has some persistence from side bro I am as critical to them as your are but Production of Baburs has nothing to do with sanctions propulsion was sources out of China till late 2010s, the only thing for which we paid in dollar is the propulsion for the missiles. It's all about supply chain and it's clean for Babur and Raad. Once u start mass production costs drop further. The only thing we needed for Babur was propulsion INS, DMSAC & TERCOM are all paks
 
Debris of Pakistani Fateh Missile at Sirsa.
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Thats a seperated motor dude.
 
The why didnt we used them? atleast in bunyanum marsoos? I mean whats the reason in your opinion? why they held it back?

Someone please ban these indian paajeets cow urine drunker

Request to all other please do not respond to these indian bots. ignore them completely
Peaceniks in establishment and in political circles.
Imagine your defense minister saying we won't escalate if India doesn't attack Pakistan further all the while Indians were terrorizing Pakistanis cities with drones. Compare that coward khawaja Asif to India's MOD. They were clear about their goals and we're reckless to achieve, it should have been us, we should have acted recklessly after all we are the ones with weak economy and smaller forces, secondly we gave foreign pressure.
Inshort we have incompetent leadership who doesn't care about Civilian life. They are care about their personal glory
 
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