Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

If paf gets these than it is likely India will go for stealth fighter jets, F35.
It is designed for big none maneuverable value assets like AEWC and tanker, plus it is not the latest gen already, it was first spotted in 2016, the next gen is already under way, plus, I don't think the logic of not making any excessive move so the enemy doesn't overreact is the right attitude in military preparation.
 
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Some briefs thoughts on all of this.

India launched an attack on her nuclear neighbour without providing no evidence to anybody that they were involved in the terrorist incident. India wanted to be judge jury and executioner being inspired by their Israeli zionist allies.

India attacked civilian infrastructure destroying places of worship killing innocent civilians including women children and claimed victory. These sickening animals were happy they killed civilians dubbing them terrorists.

On the first night of terror against Pakistan, Pak high command made a big mistake seeing this through the lens of the balkot strikes, if they really did lock on to 12-15 of their planes they should have tried to knock them all out. Pak high command did not know indias plans so neutralising the air threat was more important than showing restraint.

India continously attacking with drones and missiles after having 5 of their planes knocked out of the sky points to what they will likely do in the future. Pakistan needs to strengthen air defences especially against drone swarms.

Pakistan kept the counter strikes to north western India didn't try to target deeper. I dont know if they have long range hypersonic missiles but they should get procured/developed so Modi that dog can't feel safe anywhere.

Pak also needs to get the J35 as soon as possible it will help maintain air superiority in Indian airspace, and counter indias likely procurement of more SAMs and planes.

To me it seems Pak's stocks of cruise missiles and strategic missiles either are small or they wanted to hold for the next escalation 🪜, IMO Pak shouldn't wait and blitz as soon as their operation started.

The media war was mixed, the professional armed forces personnel handled it rather well, the civilian leadership very badly. The civilian leadership at times was out of tune with military leadership giving mixed and wrong messages showing signs of weakness to the enemy. Credit to bilo rani he articulated better than rest of the civies.

India IMO did this whole thing to dominate the escalation level just as israel has done with Iran and the axis of resistance. Also this is the official start of the water wars, Pak needs to prepare for this and have a military plan in place to prevent any blockade of water by these hindutva terrorists. Crying to the international community wont help, we see the state of the Palestinians.

Finally, India had very little support internationally to carry out the attacks but not many countries condemned them either for attacking Pak. This shows Pak is on its own, yes allies in Turkey, China and a few others are there they will be key to help with resupplying and political support but dont expect boots on the ground help. The arab states I would have zero reliance on.

Pakistan, re-arm, keep your guns pointed at this facist hundutva state, they want to be the Israel in the region, India gets off on trying to look important and show off how great it is. It's own delusion on its grandeur will start another conflict with Pak, these people would be more than happy to see Pakistan turned into Gaza. So defence is through strength and firm strong leadership.

Pakistan zindabad, Pak armed forces zindabad, may Allah awaken this nation and give us decent pious leaders to transform it.
 
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I had similar jasba when I was young but it took many years after shedding all delusions I became little useful to my society .. 😊

I am 45. All i have left is jazba n anger n burnt heart due to what is being done to Muslims by Kafirs, n what our leaders r not doing for Muslims.
 
The Brahmos were effective for the IAF and IA against Pakistan forward airbases, no doubt. Intercepting a hypersonic missile is always going to be difficult. Despite last night Indian attack on 3 Pakistani bases, the bases were still functional. And thats when Banyan ul Marsoon operation started.

Next, Pakistan attacked a number of Indian bases and installations with Fatah 1/2 which were very much effective.

Then came the C400 against the S400.

The next ladder was Ra’ad against Indians deeper into their territory.

Then would have been the Babars (LACM, ACM) and then true BM options.

You don’t show all your cards to the enemy in your first retaliation. The fact that your enemy knows you have those options, is enough.
India showed their best card in the first attack. That was the mistake they committed in their operations
 
Whatever deal Orange man made with India and Pakistan for ceasefire should exclude F-35's to India. No way in hell!

However now it's time to convert all Pakistani Vipers to V series or replace them with V.
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Taiwan loves their block 70s giving them a capability they never had same with
Turks. The whole Pakistani fleet of F-16's turned into Block 70's turns PAF into thee air superiority power unlike your dopey neighbors and their Rafails.

F-16V's would give PAF true SEAD/DEAD capabilities and won't be downgraded or export versions either.

Ask the orange man to allow the block V upgrade I think PAF would love it if they could.
 
That would have happened if he had a shred of ghairat in him.
This reminds me of a story - set in the middle ages in England when people would use chamber pots to relieve themselves and servants would toss it out of the window every morning, to avoid getting poo on them - the servants who carried rich people on special chairs would often shout the words "Chair Below" which became the word "Cheerio".

So in one such filthy street at night a man was lying face up, covered in human feces in a drunken stupor next to a pig.

A woman passed the man and said 'You are known by the company you keep' - upon hearing this the pig was so embarrassed that it got up and left the drunken man. 😂
 
US media will be singing Bollywood tunes soon enough. Indians have had a realisation that its better for them to let their money talk than their arsenal.

Pakistani government and Pakistani people will need thicker skin for the coming days.

Forum should allow Western articles. Its not like forum members paid for those articles. Hardworking rich Indians who are running US STEM industry paying for it.

Chills
 
The Saudis have joined the celebrations, its easy arabic, have a listen:

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It is designed for big none maneuverable value assets like AEWC and tanker, plus it is not the latest gen already, it was first spotted in 2016, the next gen is already under way, plus, I don't think the logic of not making any excessive move so the enemy doesn't overreact is the right attitude in military preparation.

In military defence purchases Pakistan has right strategy. They buy tech right after India has purchased n has received military goods and they do this because they want to buy something which neutralizes India newly acquired tech. It is smart strategy.
 
Some briefs thoughts on all of this.

India launched an attack on her nuclear neighbour without providing no evidence to anybody that they were involved in the terrorist incident. India wanted to be judge jury and executioner being inspired by their Israeli zionist allies.

India attacked civilian infrastructure destroying places of mosque killing innocent civiliabs including women children and claimed victory. These sickening animals were happy they killed civiliabs dubbing them terrorists.

On the first night of terror against Pakistan, Pak high command made a big mistake seeing this through the lens of the balkot strikes, if they really did lock on to 12-15 of their planes they should have tried to knock them all out. Pak high command did not know indias plans so neutralising the air threat was more important than showing restraint.

India continously attacking with drones and missiles after having 5 of their planes knocked out of the sky points to what they will likely do in the future. Pakistan needs to strengthen air defences especially against drone swarms.

Pakistan kept the countrr strikes northern western India didn't try to target deeper. I dont know if they have long range hypersonic missiles but they should get procured/developed so Modi that dog can't feel safe anywhere.

Pak also needs to get the J35 as soon as possible it will help maintain air superiority in Indian airspace, and counter indias likely procurement of more SAMs and planes.

To me it seems Pak's stocks of cruise missiles and strategic missiles either are small or they wanted to hold for the next escalation 🪜, IMO Pak shouldn't wait and blitz as soon as their operation started.

The media war was mixed, the professional armed forces personnel handled it rather well, the civilian leadership very badly. The civilian leadership at times was out of tune with military leadership giving mixed and wrong messages showing signs of weakness to the enemy. Credit to bill rani he articulated better than rest of the civies.

India IMO did this whole thing to dominate the escalation level just as israel has done with Iran and the axis of resistance. Also this is the official start of the water wars, Pak needs to prepare for this and have a military plan in place to prevent any blockade of water by these hindutva terrorists. Crying to the international community wont help, we see the state of the Palestinians.

Finally, India had very little support internationally to carry out the attacks but not many countries condemned them either for attacking Pak. This shows Pak is on its own, yes allies in Turkey, China and a few others are there they will be key to help with resupplying and political support but dont expect boots on the ground help. The arab states I would have zero reliance on.

Pakistan, re-arm, keep your guns pointed at this facist hundutva state, they want to be the Israel in the region, India gets off on trying to look important and show off how great it is. It's own delusion on its grandeur will start another conflict with Pak, these people would be more than happy to see Pakistan turned into Gaza. So defence is through strength and firm strong leadership.

Pakistan zindabad, Pak armed forces zindabad, may Allah awaken this nation and give us decent pious leaders to transform it.
Pakistan need to do one thing. They need to work on their army because army is no more as important as Air Force . Pakistan army must learn this thing. And Pakistani generals must stop poking their their noses in politics. If they stay like Air Force professionally, they could be a force to reckon
 
Whatever deal Orange man made with India and Pakistan for ceasefire should exclude F-35's to India. No way in hell!

However now it's time to convert all Pakistani Vipers to V series or replace them with V.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
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Taiwan loves their block 70s giving them a capability they never had same with
Turks. The whole Pakistani fleet of F-16's turned into Block 70's turns PAF into thee air superiority power unlike your dopey neighbors and their Rafails.

F-16V's would give PAF true SEAD/DEAD capabilities and won't be downgraded or export versions either.

Fantasy, not going to happen.. only thing related to f16 will be the periodic amount given to have US personnel on site to keep an eye on them and ensure no physical access by Chinese or Pakistani engineers..
 

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