Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

So basically, you’re calling the Ukrainians incompetent? Well, I love Pakistani intelligence — if that’s what you’re implying, then I’ll take it as a compliment for Pakistan. They are mentally brilliant and top-notch. Is that what you’re saying? Get well soon — your answer just sounds like damage control. And after this disaster, you’re still defending Western technology? Then seriously, get well soon.

In a way Ukraine was/is incompetent. Ukraine did not have a real military worth talking from 1990 to 2020. Ukraine has a serious inferiority in numbers. They are still learning how to fight. Even now Ukraine's air force is a joke.

Does it matter if you shot 5 Indian combat aircraft and Modi gets away with breaking Indus water treaty ?
 
In a way Ukraine was/is incompetent. Ukraine did not have a real military worth talking from 1990 to 2020. Ukraine has a serious inferiority in numbers. They are still learning how to fight. Even now Ukraine's air force is a joke.

Does it matter if you shot 5 Indian combat aircraft and Modi gets away with breaking Indus water treaty ?
But you forgot to mention that inside Ukrainian control rooms, it’s Western military experts, Americans, French, British, Germans who are actually controlling and handling everything. In fact, their personnel are fighting on the front lines in the war zone. So the fall of Ukraine is not just Ukraine’s failure; it’s the collapse of the West’s so-called military masterminds and their collective military might
 
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Can Pakistan make something like the NASAMS from it’s stock of AMRAAMs or FAAZ missiles to improve defense of key airbases
 
But you forgot to mention that inside Ukrainian control rooms, it’s Western military experts, Americans, French, British, Germans who are actually controlling and handling everything. In fact, their personnel are fighting on the front lines in the war zone. So the fall of Ukraine is not just Ukraine’s failure; it’s the collapse of the West’s so-called military masterminds and their collective military might

For a country that has 3:1 numerical disadvantage, 100 vintage combat aircraft from the 1980s and a military neglected for 3 decades they are doing well
 
so what will india do now that their god Rafaels have fallen. try to get F35 or Su57?
The Indians would want the F-35. The USA would want to sell it too, but that would require a complete remapping and rebuilding of the Indian military infrastructure. But there is no way the Russians will let go of such a completely dependant market that easily. They will arm twist, even threaten India with severe consequences if India does not choose a Russian 5th gen jet.

There is also no way the zionist USA will forgive India for not opting for the F-35.

It is not just a question of the 5th gen jet, whichever country sells India the 5th gen, will also be the one to sell them the 6th gen jet. That is a guaranteed source of parts/servicing income for decades and decades to come.
 
Does it matter if you shot 5 Indian combat aircraft and Modi gets away with breaking Indus water treaty ?
Let me respond by naming the so-called best Western fighter jets — the supposed “cornerstones” of Western military minds and might:

  1. Let me respond by naming the so-called best Western fighter jets — the supposed “cornerstones” of Western military minds and might:
    1. Rafale (France)
    2. Eurofighter Typhoon (UK/Germany/Italy/Spain)
    3. Saab Gripen (Sweden)


  2. Am I missing any?


    Now let’s look at reality. The Rafale, ranked at the top, was shot down within the first hour of the engagement. It never even got within 200 miles of Pakistani fighters. By the time the pilot realized he was being locked on by enemy radar, Pakistani missiles were just 50 miles away. He had only five seconds to react — and it was already too late.

    To make matters worse, their communications were hacked. What Indian pilots were saying to their wingmen was being listened to live by the enemy. Pakistan later broadcasted those intercepted conversations on national television.

    Did you even watch the DG ISPR’s press conference? Or are you still stuck defending failed technology?

    This wasn’t just a tactical defeat — it shook the foundation of Western military marketing. The systems they’ve built their global defense industry on have been publicly embarrassed. This is a lesson for every country blindly trusting expensive Western hardware: it’s not the price tag, it’s the performance in war that counts.
 
In a way Ukraine was/is incompetent. Ukraine did not have a real military worth talking from 1990 to 2020. Ukraine has a serious inferiority in numbers. They are still learning how to fight. Even now Ukraine's air force is a joke.

Does it matter if you shot 5 Indian combat aircraft and Modi gets away with breaking Indus water treaty ?
not just 5 jets, IT ESTABLISHED AIR SUPERIORITY
 
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Confident that the crash in Aknoor IOK is an Indian Mig-29.

Serration pattern line up perfectly.
 

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Send the bots pretending to be Indian and add fuel to the fire. Comon Pakistanis, your fauj has done their work. Now time for the civilians to contribute.
No thanks we have seen what those whop contributed to Pakistan received.
Muhammad Ali Jinnah
Fatima jinnah
Abdul Qadeer Khan
and recently the full nation of Pakistan with the 47 goverment in place.
 
Let me respond by naming the so-called best Western fighter jets — the supposed “cornerstones” of Western military minds and might:

  1. Let me respond by naming the so-called best Western fighter jets — the supposed “cornerstones” of Western military minds and might:
    1. Rafale (France)
    2. Eurofighter Typhoon (UK/Germany/Italy/Spain)
    3. Saab Gripen (Sweden)


  2. Am I missing any?


    Now let’s look at reality. The Rafale, ranked at the top, was shot down within the first hour of the engagement. It never even got within 200 miles of Pakistani fighters. By the time the pilot realized he was being locked on by enemy radar, Pakistani missiles were just 50 miles away. He had only five seconds to react — and it was already too late.

    To make matters worse, their communications were hacked. What Indian pilots were saying to their wingmen was being listened to live by the enemy. Pakistan later broadcasted those intercepted conversations on national television.

    Did you even watch the DG ISPR’s press conference? Or are you still stuck defending failed technology?

    This wasn’t just a tactical defeat — it shook the foundation of Western military marketing. The systems they’ve built their global defense industry on have been publicly embarrassed. This is a lesson for every country blindly trusting expensive Western hardware: it’s not the price tag, it’s the performance in war that counts.


  3. (France)
  4. Eurofighter Typhoon (UK/Germany/Italy/Spain)
  5. Saab Gripen (Sweden)

Am I missing any?

Now let’s look at reality. The Rafale, ranked at the top, was shot down within the first hour of the engagement. It never even got within 200 miles of Pakistani fighters. By the time the pilot realized he was being locked on by enemy radar, Pakistani missiles were just 50 miles away. He had only five seconds to react — and it was already too late.

To make matters worse, their communications were hacked. What Indian pilots were saying to their wingmen was being listened to live by the enemy. Pakistan later broadcasted those intercepted conversations on national television.

Did you even watch the DG ISPR’s press conference? Or are you still stuck defending failed technology?

This wasn’t just a tactical defeat — it shook the foundation of Western military marketing. The systems they’ve built their global defense industry on have been publicly embarrassed. This is a lesson for every country blindly trusting expensive Western hardware: it’s not the price tag, it’s the performance in war that counts.

I know all Western/American aircraft sold to India has the IFF and communications changed to some custom spec for Indian air force

As far as Western technology goes ask the Russians what kind of bruising they encountered in Ukraine
 
I know all Western/American aircraft sold to India has the IFF and communications changed to some custom spec for Indian air force

As far as Western technology goes ask the Russians what kind of bruising they encountered in Ukraine
Then who accepted the terms in Russia, Ukraine war. Who offered the .
ceasefire?
Now fear factor going to play in West technology operators and policy makers mind . This is the outcome and this is going to change diplomatic manners in international Arena.
 
If your economy is broken and you rely on loans. Like Pakistan. Its nothing to be proud of!

Do you think the world at large is silly pursuing Economic growth?
Bro no one is disagreeing on that.

But you have scammers and thieves running Pakistan. You cannot have a good economy with professional criminals and thieves with dual passports running govts.
 

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