Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Khanivore said:
Unfortunately a fake.
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I have a counter question, if i'd told you Brahamos was being jammed, would you have believed it 4 days ago?!!! Evidence is not just pictures. It has to be understood to make the sense out of information, once receives. Truth, extraction, is different from evidence!
 
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Colt_Six_Nine said:
Our POV: India's 5-6 losses are our complete victory but our Erieye can be brushed under the carpet.
Indian POV: India's 5-6 losses are a small price to pay for strikes at terr*r targets in Pakistan.
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Pakistan can only work with what we have. We are not claiming to be US that we can bomb anywhere on earth with little or no cost to ourselves.

Don't forget the state of our economy - together with the calibre of the current leadership.
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
I have a counter question, if i'd told you Brahamos was being jammed, would you have believed it 4 days ago?!!! Evidence is not just pictures. It has to be understood to make the sense out of information, once receives. Truth, extraction, is different from evidence!
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You're absolutely right, but evidence is a bonus and it helps to have it. Brahmos was jammed indeed as confirmed in the press conference and we saw the Brahmos overshooting, plus, yes the S-400 was hit.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Il76 returning from Turkey?
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I have no idea what dots on the PAF radar in Afghanistan were for but if they were returning to Turkey then they were surely taking their time. Maybe some one better than me about these things can explain if PAF indeed unofficially used that desolate region of Afghanistan for fighter jets as strategic depth.
 
northeast said:
From the Chinese point of view, Pakistan sort of wasted a great opportunity that perhaps only appears once in decades. Pakistan agreed ceasefire too easily and too quickly under the circumstance of upper hands. It was obviously a miscalculation.
India didn't get beaten up in a proper way - it's going to come back.
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Indians think exactly the same - that they were winning but still agreed to ceasefire. I am sure Pakistan was constantly in touch with China during the whole event and would have consulted them before agreeing,
 
Meengla said:
Right.
The border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is too long, over too challenging terrain, and has too many like-minded people on either side to be affected by drones or even by a mighty wall; those measure will only lessen the threat but the threat would be still there. No country has bled Pakistan more than the events in Afghanistan since 1979.
What's needed is long term 'live and let live' between Afghanistan and Pakistani govts, education and economic rise in both countries, targeting of terrorists where both countries coordinate with each other. Anything short of that would be just band-aid.

PS. During the ISPR press conference today, I saw two aircrafts on the PAF radar in Afghanistan but they were not in populated areas of Afghanistan: They seemed like in the rugged, mostly empty area where Afghanistan/Iran/Pakistan borders meet. I wonder if that was some 'strategic depth'; Afghanistan doesn't have much air defense to counter that, if they would counter that.
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They were there in case India had activated its proxies. Ground movement was being monitered.

Remember they said during the operation on India they also conducted an operation on the western front.
 
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lmao
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Be careful. Their population consumes media signals willingly already and does not need this kind of grassroots engagement for convincing. This is a precursor to something else - more likely political.
 
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I agree with him. Modi is at last years of his life and this humiliation will be his legacy.
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Yes but he is now a Cornered GeedaR (Jackal). It wouldn't surprise me one bit he tries to assuage his hurt pride and dwindling political stature from the debacle just happened and try to inflict some losses to Pakistan. He may pi$$ off Trump personally by doing so but that's lesser problem for him.
But if Pakistan prevents Modi from coming out ahead from this conflict then not only I see the decline of Modi regime but also decline of the nasty BJP politics in India, which will be good for India, Pakistan, China and the region.
 
Serendipity said:
Be careful. Their population consumes media signals willingly already and does not need this kind of grassroots engagement for convincing. This is a precursor to something else - more likely political.
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Signal is that this the end for now. Modi will celebrate and Indians will lap it up for national interest. International media will continue thu thu on Indian armed forces.
 
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