Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Corax]

Taking anything that comes out of a Pakistani politician's mouth as the gospel or accurate would be foolish, and it doesn't take much to assume that what he's probably trying to say is that "we have" (in the figurative sense) social media videos of the aircraft wreckage. What he probably means is that they've accumulated videos from online posts in addition to the ones we know about. Clearly the PAF or the military are not making these statements, unlike the indian air chief with his ridiculous claims pulled from thin air.

 

[Yasser76]

Taking anything that comes out of a Pakistani politician's mouth as the gospel or accurate would be foolish, and it doesn't take much to assume that what he's probably trying to say is that "we have" (in the figurative sense) social media videos of the aircraft wreckage. What he probably means is that they've accumulated videos from online posts in addition to the ones we know about. Clearly the PAF or the military are not making these statements, unlike the indian air chief with his ridiculous claims pulled from thin air.

'PIndi boys....

 

[Corax]

'PIndi boys....

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How can you trust a guy who doesn't even trust his own hair.

 

[rafale]

I'll give you a tip. What if the captured fe-mail pilot told the Pakistanis to respect her identity, and not parade her on media like we did with Abhi-Naan-Done? PA will honor such a request and she could've been respectfully handed over to BSF at some border crossing.......



Why did we pay so much for PL-15 if we were still going to "dog fight" like the 1980's? There was never a dog fight. Unless we start calling 100+ KM BVR shots a new era dog fight.

Bhai, in bollywood world, call sign "Patty" is still shooting down F-16s in WVR combat.........they will take another 10 years to get into BVR space........can't you see....that in all the current and previous battles, IAF not once was able to fire a single BVR missile.........French are just milking them by selling overhyped meteors.....IAF wont use it.

IAF will challenge 150km+ BVR supremacy with their IR seeking WVR missiles.

 

[Windjammer]

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[Foinikas]

Also "Loose screws" were the problems that made engine detached according to some of them,

This was in 9 June. A country with such a record,insists on buying the best aircraft and having a large Air Force,instead on switching in mass production of UAVs and loitering munitions.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

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I am sure Mohsin Naqvi is talking about these videos, lolz. Then he goes about making big calims about our intelligence capabilities that we had informaiton of what Indians were planning in advance. Now pause here and let's go back in May 2025 and first tri service presser where AVM Aurangzeb categorically said that "Once IAF planes released their weapons, our contract was changed by Air Chief from self-defense to assured destruction of enemy aircraft while ensring no own loss IN MID AIR" ... It tells us a very different story about the state of intelligence PAF had at the start of the conflict. Even later account of Air Chief sleeping in MDOC on a metress every night since Pehalgham also tells that PAF was anticipating an attack but had no percise intelligence as this clown Naqvi is claiming ...

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Are you ok?
Are you reading what you are posting?
You have attacked a sovereign nation and as of yet provided NO evidence.
Then your media gone into a frenzy - insinuating your military have walked into Lahore - bought samosa (vegetarian naturally) and returned safely.
Then the denial of any jets falling.
I understand even if a video was shown to you - you would harp on about it being AI generated. You cant win with this mentality yaar

So can I not say the same even if India provides or has already provided evidence?

Take the 2008 Mumbai attacks as an example: the world accepted the facts presented, yet Pakistan continued with excuses — even though one attacker was caught alive, and others a few members were tracked or detained in countries like the USA.

If such overwhelming proof was still denied, should we now expect attackers to carry their identity cards so the targeted country can “prove” their involvement after they are killed?

The reality is simple — there is no trust between the two governments. That is why the best approach is to place evidence before the public. Locally, people will believe their own government anyway, but at least the global community can assess and judge whether the evidence is credible.

 

[TopGun786]

General losses of aircrafts happens everywhere... Even USA with having best of best is not immune. But India made such a record in crashing jets that nobody can break it.

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This was in 9 June. A country with such a record,insists on buying the best aircraft and having a large Air Force,instead on switching in mass production of UAVs and loitering munitions.

 

[Foinikas]

General losses of aircrafts happens everywhere... Even USA with having best of best is not immune. But India made such a record in crashing jets that nobody can break it.

They happen everywhere,but not that much. Look at some of the dates!
We lose 5 aicraft/helicopters in 10 years and call it a bad decade,they lose 9 in one year and call it a good year!

 

[Yasser76]

To be honest I think they made a big big mistake not doing a mid life upgrade for the entire SU-30MKI Fleet around 10 years ago.

2019 showed it cannot take on the F-16/AMRAAM combo and May showed it cannot take on the J-10/PL-15 combo.

It is massively outranged in missile tech and radar tech. Indians were going on about it being "Raptor of the East", "Mini-AWACS" etc

To make up numbers they had to throw in SU-30s against us probably knowing they were vulnerable.

Issue is they have 12 full Sqds of them with poor servicability. If they had done what China did with J-16 PAF would be screwed right now. They do not have to replace the engine

Get Israel to make a larger version of Elta 2052, mate it with the Rafael Sky Sting, SU-30 could probably carry 8 of them.

If IAF had done that fleet wide it would be in a very string position now.

Instead they are sending those birds up with 1990s Bars radar and 70 mile range R-77s.

 

[Windjammer]

Rambabu was from Army Aviation not IAF S-400.

Firstly, Rambabu died on 12 th May.

Secondly, he was attached to an Army Aviation Corps UAV detachment. The unit is mentioned here.

Third, S-400 isn’t a motor bike that anybody can operate them. How will an Army personal be part of S-400 crew?

You are trying hard to salvage something out of that is dead and buried.
If it's not a motorbike then it must be Trycycle since you recently awarded this person for so called shooting down a PAF AWACS with S-400....
According to Bollywood script, before becoming an S- 400 operator, he was a MiG-29 pilot .

 

[Windjammer]

Another Video from India showing a Twin tail jet burning on the ground .

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[kimjongun]

They happen everywhere,but not that much. Look at some of the dates!
We lose 5 aicraft/helicopters in 10 years and call it a bad decade,they lose 9 in one year and call it a good year!

The loss of machines is still not that much when you account for the more then 600 pilots who lost their lives in these accidents....Millions of dollars are spent on pilots for their tranning,clearneces etc and loosing them due to your miscalculations and coruption while buying parts and repairs is very shamefull...indian airforce ka negegence is there bigger weakness IMO..like you have such a big budget,fleet of jets, access open to western vendors and defence contractors but still getting owned by a an airforce with very limited recourses and a smalller pocket...
im guessing yasser will call me an indian on my every reply....allah hidayat de use

 

[Justin TruDont]

you better get ready with your 'rear guards', Bhaktoo.....

Don't forget to do a reverse Google image search on every picture and video which ISPR share.

Battlefield 6 was just launched by EA

MAYBE AFTER ARMA 3, we will see Battlefield 6 footage being shared by ISPR since the graphics quality Using RTX 5070 will likely be ultra realistic