Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Oracle said:
Why China will not engage in war...

India will block naval blockage....
So China can't do anything now but
Arming Pakistan.

That too with limited weapons
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My friend, your navy is puny compared to ours, are you sure you want to even try? If China joins this war, it is over. How many Rafales do you need us to shoot down before you wake up? Lolol
 
Oracle said:
I have almost no trust on Pakistan ispr now...

A single indian army person you will kill... Their whole media will raid their deads house...

1 mara ha.. Pora media waha akatha hua para...

Yaha kahi keh rahe 100 mare
Kabhi pora brigade ura rahe..
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False Flagger detected. @RescueRanger
 
Oscar said:
I will reiterate what I said regarding the "rock and a hard place" sitution.
Pakistan has been doing its BEST - to provide a de-escalation ladder to the Indians but for the first time in the history of two nations - it is India that is acting in the irrational "who cares about tomorrow" way Pakistan used to with Kargil and other times.


Now only is targeting mainland Pakistan leaving no choice but to escalate but at the same time it is leading to a situation where world powers are asking Pakistan to take unilateral "drawdown" with little assurances to anything on India.

So the mood is changing slowly to ok - if it is existential warfare then fine - let's do it - let's wipe each other out and at the end of it all. The issue here isnt so much whether Pakistan will retaliate but rather the form 47 government in power is cowering away and even the ones who brought them in are regretting it.

I repeat - IK is a total bufoon - but at least the nation would stand behind him and he would go on right now on national TV and make a blustering statement and you would have everyone on the ground not care for Harops or Brahmos - all it takes is the right match to a spark - and that match for all intents and purposes is a national leader which the Sharifs will never be.
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You can't fight a full blown war with SS as the leader
But you also can't destabilize a sitting government either

I suggest that they should release IK for the time being and at least bring out a charismatic personality from either PPP or PMLN for the time being and let him be the face of PMO
IE communications minister on steroids who's job would be to connect with the public, give public address in PM's steed.
 
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Fasbre2 said:
Biggest fear is Nawaz family throwing armed forces under the bus by washing their hands of the affair and running to Trump and US… just as after Kargil.. just so that their business interests and Raiwind palace are protected…. Hence why Nawaz and daughter are totally silent … not a single statement..
As mentioned people do not have a leadership figure to rally around….
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It’s combination of both military and gov… munira was also installed during regime change don’t forget
 
Distant_Observer said:
And replace him with another uncle with broken english? They are all like that. Even IK screwed his lines many times and said odd things. Better to just speak in urdu.

Bilawal is the only clear english speaker.
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hmmmn, the issue is who's words carry weight. billo's words are empty and carry no weight as son of zardari.
 
Jungibaaz said:
Yesterday I was 70% sure we’d respond, and the Indian statements seemed to urge the int’l community that Pakistan shouldn’t respond.

In my limited knowledge of the situation on the ground, it seems the losses they took since their strike seemed to have made them conduct further action.

I think we’re at the point now where our retaliatory strikes are approaching 100% likelihood. The drone attacks, the missile attacks, especially those in Pakistani cities and filmed for the masses to see, will now have to provoke something similar in India.

I think there needs to be some counter pressure on the Indians, that this battle can also be bought into your cities and neighbourhoods. Act responsibly, otherwise we’re almost at war already, and thereafter the nuclear threshold can be reached very quickly. They’re daring us to play this game of chicken now, and if we don’t follow them, I think they will continue this aggression in the coming days and then make a habit and future precedent of this.

Bottom line, I think Pakistan must respond, and harshly. Escalation is almost a forgone conclusion now, and I hope I’m wrong but it’s too late to wait for Indians to develop some sanity.

Someone pls tell me I’m wrong. I say all of this with consternation. May Allah protect Pakistan.
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I completely agree.
Regardless of whether or not there was a false flag in Indian Punjab yesterday, India chose to take action that targeted many Pakistani cities and population centres.
This forces Pakistan to respond in kind, and shows that India definitely wants to push the escalation ladder to see how far Pakistan will go
 
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This is our defense minister? Instead of taking situation serious and show some responsibility and maturity, he is replying with his wisdom of ignorance to media.
 
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I wonder in what sense he meant, well by grace and will of Allah swt anything can be dusted.
 
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