Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

don't know the reason of this mindset that we can't lose a jet or soldiers or ships, or our defenses are impenetrable.
In boxing, when a promising boxer gets on a good run and record grows he starts to avoid challenges to protect the record

Preservation of the record controls the instincts

Not saying that's true
 
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Looks like the panel right next to front landing gears.
 

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im told this by a brigadier who is deployed in GHQ right now and is on duty. They all are trying to convince him as type this comment.
Then the easiest way to convince him is tell him about Banu Qureza. Whole tribe was obliterated when one of them tried to go near Muslim women.
Indian Zionists have attacked Mosques. Obliterate at-least RSS Gujrat & nearby temples. Their civilians are also culprit as they have voted butcher of Gujrat to power in first place.
 
Everything is fake news now, full fog of war is in effect.
I will refresh this thread after 8 hours.
Hope nothing happens.

Give it a break

Is their fog or war, sure

But their is also ample evidence of multiple Indian jets shot down with very little response

You need to accept reality and not go mental
 
Link to an update on TWZ. Worth the read IMO.

 
I don’t watch Indian media at all. So do many others who know how dramebaaz they are.
But, there are gullible people both the sides.
Your government is as wretched and despicable as rulers this side. No one is Doodh ka dhula hua.

It is well known and openly accepted by your successive governments that they supported non state actors in India for many decades. It is well known that they handed over your own citizens to western powers in exchange for money. It can go on and on.

I am ok with it. A nation does what it thinks is best for them. But, they have to be ready to face the consequences too.
If Indian government does something stupid then they too would face the music.
The common man or awaam, as we call it, is generally behind the nation when a military action starts. It has been always like that for long long time.
Even, I support my government at these times. But I also question tall claims and sceptical of overachievements being declared by them.
Baaki, let the dust settle down. We will know who lost what and who gained what.
Nah man. Pakistani civilian governments can be financially corrupt to the core and beyond, to the last atom, but they have never been genocidal. Not even the mainstream religious parties that get elected to parliament are like that. This is not the case with India. Anti-India rhetoric is unlikely to get you elected in Pakistan. On the other hand, anti-Pakistan rhetoric is exactly what Indian politicians do to muster votes. The result is this, what we are witnessing now.

When military regimes did injustice we stood up and spoke up. What you are highlighting in your post, you know it today because Pakistanis made big issue of it. Can you honestly speak against your current government openly and loudly, and call spade a spade? chances are you'll be ostracised.

Please support your country under all circumstance. You'll have my full respect, not matter what, no matter what goes down in this fight. But for anyone who supports Modi/BJP gov, rest assured the fire he has ignited in the neighborhood will eventually set Indian houses ablaze also.
 

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