Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[brazensword]

Time and place of our choosing

Yeh ho gaya response at time and place of our choosing

GCC pressure worked then.

 

[mshan61]

did anyone notice in this current situation indians are not bragging about tejas samosa ,not even indian media said tejas once while according to them it was operation and have bvr capability which can outrange all paf assets and now all of sudden indians are scared to even say tejas names lol

 

[Bugsy]

This is one what I’ve been trying to explain this Indian guy why he was not ready to accept that situation is not good for them

Ball is in our court, the possibilities are endless. This is a blessing in disguise.

 

[mythbuster]

China already knows much about it but the US continues to improve it. India also knows much about F-16 but Indian Air Force could not down even one in a fight. Jet fighters can be continuously updated but they are a part of the equation. Indian Air Force has shortcomings in the EW and ISR domains (see). The US will not just provide a jet fighter but push for organizational reforms and transformation for it to work but Indians are not mentally up for it yet. They are not comfortable with American RULES in place. French do not tell what Indians need to do. This is the difference.

Yep , with a caveat...... during late fifties and early sixties Americans provided massive support to Pakistan , not just equipment and finances but also structural reforms.......I am not sure America will provide similar level of support to India... being the largest country in the world India has the potential to become a lesser version of china....I don't think America wants to see another china

 

[SteppeWolff]

@SteppeWolff

Honestly I don't mind Pakistan going for de-escalation if we cut down our defense budget by at least 50% after that

There is no point of spending so much money on defense if we are okay with indians bombing our cities and killing our people

Spend that money on people of thar or Balochistan or south Punjab or ex fata

If too much money and resources have made them soft and useless, time to take them away.

Till now, the ONLY saving grace of armed forces in Pakistan has been that they are strong and don't let Pakistan get bullied.

Bachay shaheed, Masajid shaheed, Missile attacks, kamikaze drones kay baad bhi agar restraint aur koi chootiya strategy wala gyaan mila to smjh jana, ye bilkul farigh hain.

Why not prioritize education and healthcare then? My home province of Balochistan literally is in ruins. Better to divert the money there.

 

[brazensword]

A kid comes running to her mom and says ! There's an elephant for sale , just for 2 rupees.... Mom says ..no it's expensive.....years pass by and same kif comes running back to her mother and says ! Mom , there's an elephant for sale and the price is one lak rupees....moms says ! Good buy it .

Truck ki batti k peche lgana khoob jante ho tum log.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Its expected that huge number of missiles ran out of fuel ..thats what BVR are suppose to do. I will expect india will find atleast a dozen if it looks harder because several fozen would have been fired lets assume there were 40-60 Pakistani jets each one of them are typically armed by four to six BVRs

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It was not a "Dog Fight", it was an air battle if you can call that. For a battle you need two opposing sides willing to fight, in this case their was one frightened side that just lobbed a few projectiles 100 miles away from the border and turned tail, the other side still engaged the runaway party for a billion dollar firework that lasted 20 odd minutes with 3 Raphails, 1 Su30MKI and one Mig19 turned in to fireballs racing each other to see who hits the ground first.

 

[LeGenD]

Yep , with a caveat...... during late fifties and early sixties Americans provided massive support to Pakistan , not just equipment and finances but also structural reforms.......I am not sure America will provide similar level of support to India... being the largest country in the world India has the potential to become a lesser version of china....I don't think America wants to see another china

Good point. The US does not wants to see yet another world power emerge lol.

 

[Musings]

It's not about my happiness. Just want to put the things in proper prospective.

Bro - move on. I don’t wish to ban you but you are going round I. Circles.
I like your patriotism but park it their and move on in the discussion

 

[Dr khan]

Now they are finally coming to their senses. The man with the red cap, is just a mouthpiece of the establishment’s puppet president.

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PTI send their best as foreign ministry..well spoken who worked very hard .that guy was respected by everyone
He is now in jail without any charges for over a year.
What a shame and what a disgrace

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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[Areesh]

GCC pressure worked then.

I won't be surprised even though I still hope it isn't the case

 

[RafaleSlayer]

China already knows much about it but the US continues to improve it. India also knows much about F-16 but Indian Air Force could not down even one in a fight. Jet fighters can be continuously updated but they are a part of the equation. Indian Air Force has shortcomings in the EW and ISR domains (see). The US will not just provide a jet fighter but push for organizational reforms and transformation for it to work but Indians are not mentally up for it yet. They are not comfortable with American RULES in place. French do not tell what Indians need to do. This is the difference.

IAF has been doing air exercises with Singapore F16 since 1980's

 

[onlinpunit]

Bro - move on. I don’t wish to ban you but you are going round I. Circles.
I like your patriotism but park it their and move on in the discussion

Come on..I am simply putting my POV in the most normal language posible. What violation have I done ?

 

[onlinpunit]

bring the discussion the J10 thread or the evidence thread, you are derailing this thread mate.

I got my answer. I am done with PL15.