Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

If true you can hear them saying jets are also coming, so PAF ghuss giye jammu me?

Just letting you know Indian media dubs audio on other videos all the time. Earlier they used a video from USA plan crash and dubbed "Pakistanis" over it.
 
Again - I always say to such bluster - if you are so convinced you can do a better job - please apply for it.

Let’s say only 2 jets were downed - then they were downed while outnumbered 3:1.
Not sure where else that has happened in modern air combat.

There were likely 40+ civilians killed - not 26 -
Mosques or not is irrelevant.

What’s been done in response is known to Indians on LoC - and elsewhere.

However, unlike the Indian economy Pakistan is on life support.
So when the entire world is saying hold off otherwise we’ll choke your citizens to death you have considerations to take which let’s be honest neither you nor I will be impacted by but those sitting in Pakistan looking at reduced electricity production, fuel prices unaffordable, no water for crops, no transport and infrastructure working will face. All the “I want blood” goes away when you cannot pay for food or fuel.

Even those living in Pakistan making boisterous statements haven’t seen the impact of complete strangulation because that is the message your brothers have landed with yesterday.

Pakistan economy is always on life support. Water terrorism will be act of war so no point going on about it.

Pakistan doesnt need 10% GdP growth to erase India from the map. Just few dozen nukes directed at their cities will do the job.

That day will not come as IAF has taken a epic beating. Doubt they will get anywhere near Pakistani border again. And you cant win without air superiority.
 
"Financial, Diplomatic, Internal Security, ... ... blah blah" are just excuses to hide cowardice.

DO your remember 1st day of Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique's (R.A.) Caliphate?
People were sorrow, Byzantine was at gates & all that was compounded by 2 civil wars - no zakat & false prophets.
Some People advised Caliph: "Our economy is not great. Numbers are less. Population in rebelling against us. We can't fight a superpower (Byzantine) in this position. Call of Usama's army expedition & 1st focus on Economy. ... ..."*
Caliph replied: "I can't hold back Usama's expedition as it's ordered by Prophet PBUH. His expedition will go as ordered. I'll simultaneously fight against those who don't give Zakat as paying Zakat is Allah's order. Also I will fight against false prophets. ... ..."* Historians wrote all Muslim Men went to these 3 battles including Caliph. Only women remained in Madina.
Now tell me, is Pak's economic or internal security situation is more worse than 1st day of Khilafat-e-Raashda?

As Iqbal has stated in Jwab-e-Shikwa - one reason of downfall is excuses/maslehat

کون ہے تارکِ آئینِ رسُولِ مختارؐ؟
مصلحت وقت کی ہے کس کے عمل کا معیار؟
کس کی آنکھوں میں سمایا ہے شعارِ اغیار؟
ہوگئی کس کی نِگہ طرزِ سلَف سے بیزار؟
قلب میں سوز نہیں، رُوح میں احساس نہیں
کچھ بھی پیغامِ محمّدؐ کا تمھیں پاس نہیں


(P.S: Talks in "*" are not exact quotes. I have read this incident in Wikipedia and reproduced it here in my own wordings)
If Abu Bakr was our Prime Minister now, I am sure he would do exactly as you described, what he did then.

But we have Showbaaz!

Please see the difference.
 
Thanks for this info brother. Can you point to some latest tech acquired by Pak in the last two decades towards this?
CM302 Supersonic missiles are the biggest additional so supplement them Ballistic Missiles
 
True and even then, we all in Pakistan have different heroes to them. We see mughals as our pride, they see them as invaders. We eat cows. They worship it.
Ultimately, the Ummah is the Ummah. You can have Muslims who love the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, but we are united in our love for Islam. For Allah SWT and His Rasool PBUH. For Truth and Justice.

Back to topic:

As someone mentioned previously, The Telegraph reports that India has moved its western fleet closer to the northern Arabian Sea. Indian Navy, as reported here, began their drills yesterday and plan to continue until Tuesday 13th May.

Same Indian source (I couldn’t find Pakistani source from brief search) claims Pakistani naval drills running from today until Monday 12th May. There is OSINT report from X here:
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Also from Reuters:
Over the last week, some trackers noted unusually large fleets of Chinese fishing vessels moving apparently in unison to within 120 nautical miles of Indian naval drills in the Arabian Sea as tensions rose with Pakistan.

Might be worth tracking movement of this Chinese vessels as these drills progress as well.
 
To phir kuch karo na... Twitter per behat kar bharaknay ka kya faida...
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Uder Israel ney maar maar kar becharay Palestinians ko shaheed kar dia aur ap air conditioned Maybeck me safari kar rahey they.... Asey morally bankrupt loag mey nai aj tak nahi dekay... In baddu ka kohi zameer nahi hain. Sorry.

Pakistan should NOT kowtow to Saudis for their own VESTED interests.
masla pakistani naheen.. pakistani leadership hain bhai..
and then
the fact tht gulf has 2/3 of our diaspora. most in KSA. We need to send more students to study all over the west and east and in just 2 decades GCC diaspora wont be the achilles heel of our remittance.
before both changes happen, we will have to behave and fall in line.
 
The drone flying low is likely Shahpar 2
Or Burraq
Lol it's well within enemy fire range
And? That's literally thr point of drones. They're able to get in close without fearing pilot death.

If 1 gets shot, you send another, if that gets shot down, you send another, and so forth.
 

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