Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Signalian]

This is not an Apples v Apples comparison. Chinese units are used for amphibious invasion, PM Hovercraft are for patrol

Equipment defines capability.

This is amphibious Ex with Turks in Karachi.


This is amphibious Ex with USMC

 

[Signalian]

Honestly Pakistan would have been better off without Marines. They are pretty much like Rangers for coastal area. That budget should have used for producing millions of beach coastal obstacles. And use drones to monitor and position rockets and artys.
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You know Askari Guards ? The security guard agency.

Marines are the "Askari Guards" of the Navy. They are sentries for naval installations. The role has been expanded just a small bit, like defense of Creek area, amphibious capability etc.

 

[PK781]

At the end of the day - the enemy is well aware of how hollow Pakistan's actual defenses are.
However, they are also aware of how hollow their spears are or even if they have solid spears cannot find enough people to hold it together. Whenever they change that - the "hold it together" part - I keep saying is the day you all should prepare for a bloodbath.

Take a look at 71, study it again and again to see what supposed "brilliance" India did.
Nothing. They just followed a plan methodically. Their leaders also know they did not need heroics or 6 kill aces, they just needed everyone to be just about - just exactly - proficient at their specific task AND NOTHING ELSE.

They mostly wiped the floor with your Army and Navy - and your Airforce survived only because it was asked to sit out the conflict and protect itself for a never to come offensive( other than the spirited actions of 33d Wing at Monabao which saved you being cut in half)

Otherwise find any other example of "Brilliance" or even "competence" by many of the leadership in your branches. Keep this nonsense of Battle hardened religious ideals to fantasies - those religious ideals have killed more Pakistanis than any of the Hindutva could ever dream of and continue to do so.

Back in Kargil your PN officers were begging doctors to be declared medically unfit so they would not go out for certain death. Things are MUCH MUCH Better now.

However, if it is already to the point where IA's Amphibious brigades can safely land troops, the conflict is lost.

if you say it that way, what's really keeping the future conflict(s) from going to a "MAD" type scenario anyway once things are exhausted or we start sort of losing any advantage over them ?? Something tells me the escalation ladder will be very short and will be toppled quickly leading to nuclear strikes by both on each other.....is that what we r expecting?
ww3/armagaeddon/malhama tul uzma ??

The world already has too many nuclear flashpoints, this is just 1 of them

 

[Waterboy]

We must really work on force protection and vital installation security in the coming weeks and months. The Enemy will most likely seek to target critical infrastructure, assets and personnel via its proxies ahead of any major conflict.

The first step of that process is to repatriate every afghan refugee from the country and those who illegally obtained CNICs. Illegal afghans are a security risk, as they provide humint on army's movement and are actively involved in undermining our state's integrity. After reading tweets of afghans and their diaspora since last two weeks, i feel like we'll be really better of by making sure we don't bring any afghans into pakistan.

 

[ARMalik]

By using FC, drones, limited Airforce and other modern tactics, the Military has shown that it can devatate Taliban. THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT since this means that the core of Pakistan Military can take care of India.

2 front or 3 front, India will get destroyed - chance of a nuclear weapons is growing !!

 

[PK781]

The first step of that process is to repatriate every afghan refugee from the country and those who illegally obtained CNICs. Illegal afghans are a security risk, as they provide humint on army's movement and are actively involved in undermining our state's integrity. After reading tweets of afghans and their diaspora since last two weeks, i feel like we'll be really better of by making sure we don't bring any afghans into pakistan.

i just never understood why those assholes even want to come to Pak and/or stay here, they know we don't like them and they don't like us yet they want to come here so badly. Then they go into all parts of the country and not just stay in kpk even knowing they dont speak urdu
Its time ALL of them are deported. Cancel their fake cnic and fake passports
its taking too fucking long to deport them all. Should've been done yesterday!

 

[Oscar]

Lol. Too late I reckon

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Too late for what?

What is their production capacity per year?
How many existing SPJs do they have for their fleets?
What gap is this going to fill?

 

[Baibers_1260]

At the end of the day - the enemy is well aware of how hollow Pakistan's actual defenses are.
However, they are also aware of how hollow their spears are or even if they have solid spears cannot find enough people to hold it together. Whenever they change that - the "hold it together" part - I keep saying is the day you all should prepare for a bloodbath.

Take a look at 71, study it again and again to see what supposed "brilliance" India did.
Nothing. They just followed a plan methodically. Their leaders also know they did not need heroics or 6 kill aces, they just needed everyone to be just about - just exactly - proficient at their specific task AND NOTHING ELSE.

They mostly wiped the floor with your Army and Navy - and your Airforce survived only because it was asked to sit out the conflict and protect itself for a never to come offensive( other than the spirited actions of 33d Wing at Monabao which saved you being cut in half)

Otherwise find any other example of "Brilliance" or even "competence" by many of the leadership in your branches. Keep this nonsense of Battle hardened religious ideals to fantasies - those religious ideals have killed more Pakistanis than any of the Hindutva could ever dream of and continue to do so.

Back in Kargil your PN officers were begging doctors to be declared medically unfit so they would not go out for certain death. Things are MUCH MUCH Better now.

However, if it is already to the point where IA's Amphibious brigades can safely land troops, the conflict is lost.

I guess the Chambh Jhaurian corridor is still with India after 1971 and INS Kukhri is still afloat .

 

[Aggregate]

if you say it that way, what's really keeping the future conflict(s) from going to a "MAD" type scenario anyway once things are exhausted or we start sort of losing any advantage over them ?? Something tells me the escalation ladder will be very short and will be toppled quickly leading to nuclear strikes by both on each other.....is that what we r expecting?
ww3/armagaeddon/malhama tul uzma ??

The world already has too many nuclear flashpoints, this is just 1 of them

India is looking to shift Sir Creek border by around 96kms, which will get important oil reserves and fishing areas into their maritime boundaries. Its not the dead marshes of Sir Creek, but the associated Maritime region in the sea that India wants. The question from India's POV, is that will Pakistan strategic retreat, in order to avoid escalation to nuclear levels, or will Pakistan go all in for a mere 96 Km disputed area (mere is their assumption, of course not ours) ? They are hoping for the former.

India are hoping to:

• Either capture the area, hence getting bragging rights domestically, lose humiliation of May and getting a part of the oil reserves and Fishing Areas
• Or At least come to an agreement where Pakistan vacates, still earning them bragging rights

Though Pakistan can keep going at this for a long time if it wants. That area does not offer any benefits to tactically larger side, so India will still have a very hard time and it will bet very costly, unless one side decides to back out. I guess India has decided they will go all in for this until Pakistan gets tired of defending it. It will be upto our policymakers on what they decide to do eventually.

 

[maverick]

India is looking to shift Sir Creek border by around 96kms, which will get important oil reserves and fishing areas into their maritime boundaries. Its not the dead marshes of Sir Creek, but the associated Maritime region in the sea that it wants. The question from India's POV, is that will Pakistan strategic retreat, in order to avoid escalation to nuclear levels, or will Pakistan go all in for a 90 Km disputed area ? They are hoping for the former.

India, even if unable to "capture", will be able to say that they cleared the place (as Pakistan has lots of defensive and hard structures in the place for strong defense) ... India will get bragging rights and one of the largest fishing areas in the region and will lose the humiliation of May.

Though Pakistan can keep going at this for a long time if it wants. That area does not offer any benefits to tactically larger side, so India will still have a very hard time with no guarantees of success, but it will be a long, bloody limited war until one side backs off.

i am not sure what are u trying to say here

 

[Aggregate]

i am not sure what are u trying to say here

That it will be decision of which side strategically retreats from the 96Km disputed area of Sir Creek, this will not be a shoot planes and throw missiles and go home war .. this one will only end when one side strategically retreats or otherwise escalates.

India are already humiliated and down, so they will want to do anything to get this win, for as long as it takes once they commit themselves. Either we make it so expensive for them locally that they back out or if we cannot do it then we will have to go for a strategic retreat, in hopes that we can later come back stronger, since It will still remain a disputed area nevertheless.

 

[Signalian]

Sit Creek is not meant for armour

There are multiple areas where amphibious operations can be conducted, its not restricted to one area only.

 

[falcon34]

Our NOTAM has started...

There are hell lot of aircraft in our airspace
I don't see any NOTAM in effect

 

[Psyko70]

I will buy your game when it's ready. Please tag me. For Android?

Pc game sir.

 

[Signalian]

Pc game sir.

A few files that i worked on modifying a game and putting Pakistani units in it.