Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Signalian]

My guess, they will not move Vikrant in initial weave of attack ...the risk is too high ...otherwise they will not sustain the loss.

The threat has gone to diminishing phase.

Both scenarios of deployment are different.

 

[Aggregate]

Quite a bit of air activity by PAF today on Flightradar, few VIP jets in the air and C-130s over Karachi and SAAB 2000 between Lahore and 'Pindi.

Could be staff and personnel movement prior to actions on East or Western borders?

Seems more busy then normal

Wow .. you are right .. PAF Jets, C130 Plane, Saudi Private Jet, Chinese Private Jet, Pak Government Planes flying all across that region ....

C-295 Troop Transport Plane, Indian Jets, Indian Govt Planes on the Indian Side.

I have never seen this kind of activity, in this region.

 

[NA71]

Both scenarios of deployment are different.

aap ka kiya khayal hey ...will they bring it to open sea? PAF AB in karachi to that location is merely 3 to 4 minutes....or in case of stand off range ...2 minutes

 

[PakistaniDefender]

Internet is doing what it should. Just like we dont know whats inside DA-20.

Do think Pakistan Army did wrong decision of acquiring HQ9P instead of HQ9B?

 

[Baibers_1260]

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How is this news relevant to the discussion? As Commander in Chief of India's Armed Forces, President Draupadi is more interested in emphasizing her post-menopausal status in visiting the Sabarimala Swami Ayyappa Temple in Kerala than any serious assessment of India's air combat capabilities.

 

[NA71]

Indian NOTAM starts from 30th but they have started creating hype to max level ...like war will be started from tomorrow.

The VIP movement as posted by Yasser76..indicates that some credible info is there....kuch gar bar hy

 

[RescueRanger]

Indian NOTAM starts from 30th but they have started creating hype to max level ...like war will be started from tomorrow.

The VIP movement as posted by Yasser76..indicates that some credible info is there....kuch gar bar hy

Indeed the hype across the border has been high:

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[PakistaniDefender]

Wars are unpredictable but all Indian think tanks believe that a seaborne invasion of Pakistan, and the capture of Karachi is far easier than trying to capture Multan.

Are you comedy me?

 

[RescueRanger]

Are you comedy me?

They have been planning for it since 2005. Its their wet dream.

 

[NA71]

Now this man brings inside news.:

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[PakistaniDefender]

Karachi bahis dont want to do heavy lifting. The city once known for its highly literate middle class and KGS alumni is now like night city from Cyberpunk universe .

But once if MQM activated its unit and sectors then there will be major problems for Indian Army. It will be urban guerilla warfare for them. Don't forget the stolen NATO Weapons. They already have experience fighting 3 front war against Lyari Gang war, ANP and Sindhi Nationalists(JSQM etc). A very good battle harden militia @Mighty_Dragon_Strike @NA71 @Kim Jong Un @Signalian @Yasser76 @Baibers_1260

 

[Baibers_1260]

Are you comedy me?

Indian war game analysts think so and with good reason:
In 1971, Dhaka even with a small core of staunchly patriotic Urdu speaking population fell within two weeks because the majority population were alienated and actively collaborating with the enemy. So nobody really fought the invasion . Karachi is not Dhaka of 1971, but it does have a polyglot diverse apathetic self-centered population which gives a huge advantage to the enemy. The Indian assessment is that if the armed forces defending Karachi are destroyed the population is likely to accept an enemy occupation. They may be wrong, We will soon know.
@PakistaniDefender

"But once if MQM activated its unit and sectors then there will be major problems for Indian Army. It will be urban guerilla warfare for them. Don't forget the stolen NATO Weapons"

Highly unlikely. MQM is not a trained fighting force with no training in standard infantry weapons or urban combat.
In fact India views the MQM ( whatever is left of it) as a strategic asset and will likely strike a deal with the group.
There don't appear to be any good options for a backup to resist an invasion of Karachi

 

[NA71]

But once if MQM activated its unit and sectors then there will be major problems for Indian Army. It will be urban guerilla warfare for them. Don't forget the stolen NATO Weapons. @Mighty_Dragon_Strike @NA71 @Kim Jong Un @Signalian @Yasser76 @Baibers_1260

Bro MQM condition is same as Dr. Khalid Maqbool Siddique.... almost dead. (Sorry ...off topic)

 

[hnn]

What are the assessed objectives in order of priority of the Indian Navy CBG. ?
- Destruction of the Pakistani Navy and Pakistan's sea board
coastal defenses?
- Blockade of Karachi and Gwadar ?
- Deep cruise missile strikes co-ordinating an Indian Air Force
and Army missile strikes targeting Pakistan's Nuclear
weapons assets and infrastructure ?
- Supporting an amphibious landing assault to capture the
Baluchistan Makran coastline and declare Baluchistan as an
independent state after it cedes control of its mineral wealth
to India ?
India is obviously eyeing Karachi as a war booty
In a "what if " scenario the Indian amphibious invasion may rely on some "India friendly " assets in Baluchistan and Sindh but the situation in Karachi could be different.
Some open questions:
- Would the people of Karachi engage an Indian marine and
navy occupying force in urban guerrilla combat and see the
city become another Gaza or Stalingrad ?
-Given the diversity of the population of Karachi, would there
even be a will to fight an invasion?
Wars are unpredictable but all Indian think tanks believe that a seaborne invasion of Pakistan, and the capture of Karachi is far easier than trying to capture Multan. The capture of Karachi and secession of Baluchistan, Sindh and KPK ( with KPK merging into Afghanistan) would reduce Pakistan to just Punjab which would become a rump state with no seaboard. A puppet Khalistan ( after a deal with Sikhs ) could then be setup merging Pakistani Punjab into Indian East Punjab.
As of now that appears to be the game plan.
@Signalian

Here are a few possibilities (in ascending order of ambitiousness) that come to mind considering India's ongoing narrative of being able to carry out strikes inside Pakistan:-

1. Karachi Port Area - no brainer - could either try to employ a naval blockade around the EEZ or naval launched missiles targeting port area and airbases alongside aeriel strikes to try and bait PN.

2. Tactical maneuver towards Gwadar Port baiting PN again.

3. If the tactical maneuver is successful, could even be ambitious enough to target Khuzdar using naval launched BrahMos ER. This one is insanely ambitious but would fulfil their narrative of striking our deepest strategic position.

These are just possibilities, it all really depends on their goal which we can't know for certain, at least as of yet.

 

[NA71]

Here are a few possibilities (in ascending order of ambitiousness) that come to mind considering India's ongoing narrative of being able to carry out strikes inside Pakistan:-

1. Karachi Port Area - no brainer - could either try to employ a naval blockade around the EEZ or naval launched missiles targeting port area and airbases alongside aeriel strikes to try and bait PN.

2. Tactical maneuver towards Gwadar Port baiting PN again.

3. If the tactical maneuver is successful, could even be ambitious enough to target Khuzdar using naval launched BrahMos ER. This one is insanely ambitious but would fulfil their narrative of striking our deepest strategic position.

These are just possibilities, it all really depends on their goal which we can't know for certain, at least as of yet.

Brother...India wants to show off power ...big ..prolong war is not in Indian favour too... so they will only opt Drones and Brahmos ...heavy strikes on Karachi port/Bholari & Masroor ABs ..IN/IA Marines move is simply a bait.

Keep in mind the escalation ladder dynamics.