Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Baibers_1260]

Without Airs Superiorty India cannot too much, so this got me thinking, what is India upto now?? How will they attack this time around??

To me it is very clear -- INDIA WILL USE DOZENS AND DOZENS OR EVEN PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF BRAHMOS MISSILES IN A PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE ON PAKISTAN'S AIR ASSETS !! Once there is significant damage to Pakistan's air assets, India can then bring in the rest of their military.

I guess my question is to the more informed members -- HOW WILL PAKISTAN PREPARE FOR SUCH A SCENARIO?? HOW CAN PAKISTAN PROTECT ITS AIR ASSETS?? I do not think that Pakistan's ADs can intercept so many Brahmos - yes a few but not all of them.

We can't intercept every single Brahmos missile and enough will get through to cause significant damage. The answer is retaliation, not defense. " Launch on detect".
All available missiles must be launched the moment the first wave of Brahmos missiles launches are detected. Nuclear martyrdom is the only option.

It is surprising we Pakistanis are in a denial mode. We don't realize our vicious evil enemy has already decided to make the ultimate foolish mistake.
Our fate is sealed, but we have a choice whether to go "quietly into the night " or as we leave, courageously fight the final conflict dispatching our enemy into the history books forever.

 

[Sri]

Bhai Sri.....is there anything funny? I think you are in a wrong forum? Check again where they asked you to peer in.

Issuing notam in already notam area is first time I have seen, this is really funny to me .

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

No ....its not

share your reasons why you believe so!

justification should be strong to make me believe, attack is coming!

not denying, abnormalities but also not accepting rumors

war is a possibility not a probability!

my reasons
these exercises do not involve their major fighting units

 

[Maea]

share your reasons why you believe so!

justification should be strong to make me believe, attack is coming!

not denying, abnormalities but also not accepting rumors

war is a possibility not a probability!

my reasons
these exercises do not involve their major fighting units

During the previuos attacks indians first created hype among their masses, to check the appetite for war.
When enough rabid dog hindutvas were agreed upon, then they proceeded with military movements.

This time they already have a justification. The only thing remaing to do is attack, hence the possibility of indian attack is being seriously considered.

 

[Ibbi32]

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This is going to be interesting.

PN being more ballsy and confrontational in one excercise than entire govt in khyber storm. This is the kind of attitude we need to stand up to both Afghanistan and India

 

[Red Shaheen]

Let’s hope it doesn’t take 3 days this time to decide what to do, all scenarios should be planned for immediate response/even preemptive if required. Last time we were caught off guard to the extent of their plan of attack. Prepare for an all out war.

 

[Maea]

Let’s hope it doesn’t take 3 days this time to decide what to do, all scenarios should be planned for immediate response/even preemptive if required. Last time we were caught off guard to the extent of their plan of attack. Prepare for an all out war.

Im pretty sure this time everyone is fully prepared and this is exactly what is deterring indian strikes, bcz they know this time there wont be any indecisiveness from our side.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

War between us two, attrition isnt really a question bec. of economic thresholds.

so, 10 days of war, would lead to nuclear exchange

why??

because of:

1. in case of mounting losses our threshold would be lowered
(that itself implies surprise attack on troop concentrations)

2. economic strangulation would imply massive incursion!

both scenarios are scary, so thats why 10 days of war would be the last war for Pak. and India

however,

numerous low frequency and higher impact small conflicts are the real deal now

why:

1. wont break the threshold
2. would weaken Pak (make Ind stronger)
3. Pak will loose fighting will

so, war is not out of question, it will not be a long war, rather many small wars

 

[Aggregate]

During the previuos attacks indians first created hype among their masses, to check the appetite for war.
When enough rabid dog hindutvas were agreed upon, then they proceeded with military movements.

This time they already have a justification. The only thing remaing to do is attack, hence the possibility of indian attack is being seriously considered.

Though this is simply not how an attack is done. There are a huge major indications, heightened diplomacy, public drills, counter-actions, Air Patrols ... and as others have mentioned, far larger mobilizations.

India is simply checking their new tactics. Once done they will probably have to refine them, probably test them again, etc, etc. Right now their AF cannot come for a war with Pakistan, their Navy is at risk from Anti Ship Missiles and they cannot have any numerical advantage in Sir Creek. These are simply exercises and Pakistan is countering them to show its own capabilities.

 

[Maea]

Though this is simply not how an attack is done. There are a huge major indications, heightened diplomacy, public drills, counter-actions, Air Patrols ... and as others have mentioned, far larger mobilizations.

India is simply checking their new tactics. Once done they will probably have to refine them, probably test them again, etc, etc. Right now their AF cannot come for a war with Pakistan, their Navy is at risk from Anti Ship Missiles and they cannot have any numerical advantage in Sir Creek. These are simply exercises and Pakistan is countering them to show its own capabilities.

I agree with you, but one thing you havent considered is that india is being led by fascists both civilian and military.
Fascists rarely wage wars based on logic and actual military preparedness.

 

[ARMalik]

We can't intercept every single Brahmos missile and enough will get through to cause significant damage. The answer is retaliation, not defense. " Launch on detect".
All available missiles must be launched the moment the first wave of Brahmos missiles launches are detected. Nuclear martyrdom is the only option.

It is surprising we Pakistanis are in a denial mode. We don't realize our vicious evil enemy has already decided to make the ultimate foolish mistake.
Our fate is sealed, but we have a choice whether to go "quietly into the night " or as we leave, courageously fight the final conflict dispatching our enemy into the history books forever.

Thinking logically, I think there are only very limited options available for Pakistan to minimize damage from a pre-emptive strike.

1- Hardened structures for protection of ADs, Fighter jets, etc. Yes I have seen some structures for Fighter Jets but I have not seen anything for ADs, etc.

2- Obviouosly Indian needs to launch Brahmos - how early can Pakistan detect these? Because if Pakistan has the ability to detect even slight movement of Brahmos, they can issue red alert and have most of their fighter jets and AWACS in the air. I assume that due to tension with india, ADs are already on high alert.

3- Pakistan makes a decision to launch Pre-emptive strikes on Indian Military assets specially Brahmos storage facilities. Honestly I think that Pakistan needs to do this soon!

 

[Aggregate]

I agree with you, but one thing you havent considered is that india is being led by fascists both civilian and military.
Fascists rarely wage wars based on logic and actual military preparedness.

That is agreed though .. and that is why they have failed twice since 2019. That possibility is always there and the silver lining is that hopefully they will embarrass themselves once more with blunders and mess ups, in this state of warmongering fascism.

The attack at Sir Creek seems to be where the bulk of their power meets, Army, Navy AF. If this time they can be slapped off then hopefully they will pick someone else to bother in the future.

 

[NA71]

share your reasons why you believe so!

justification should be strong to make me believe, attack is coming!

not denying, abnormalities but also not accepting rumors

war is a possibility not a probability!

my reasons
these exercises do not involve their major fighting units

My brother....just wait for max a week....if it is coming it will be with in first few days on November....otherwise you will be my guest ....

Justification tu India dey ga bhai ....just after a false flag or name it preemptive strikes ...on Pakistan's assets deployment or any other other fancy story .

 

[Be dazzled]

Both navies staring eye to eye just 240 nautical miles apart for almost 12 hours now. I've seen plenty of MPA activity as well. Seeing all this I'm certain PN is itching to lay it on the IN. Vikrant hasn't run away yet surprisingly even though mug 29s have faulty radars and literally no adequate bvr to respond to PAFs moves. Karachi Gwadar Ormara and coastal defence is being ramped since yesterday. Thats where we are ATM.

 

[NA71]

There are a lot more happening beyond NOTAMS and Counter NOTAMS.....