Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Be dazzled]

There are a lot more happening beyond NOTAMS and Counter NOTAMS.....

Literally. Plenty of shuffling.

 

[NA71]

Both navies staring eye to eye just 240 nautical miles apart for almost 12 hours now. I've seen plenty of MPA activity as well. Seeing all this I'm certain PN is itching to lay it on the IN. Vikrant hasn't run away yet surprisingly even though mug 29s have faulty radars and literally no adequate bvr to respond to PAFs moves. Karachi Gwadar Ormara and coastal defence is being ramped since yesterday. Thats where we are ATM.

Sir...this time they are really upto naval engagement....could be devastated if thet start direct hitting ports.....our ports are congested....spreading relatevely on smaller areas ....
Gawadar may not be be in the target list for now.....Chinese factor.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Salza]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[NA71]

NEW NOTAM
Pak Naval ships will conduct firing exercises tomorrow in Indian controlled airspace while remaining in EEZ of Pakistan, at the same time Indian Airforce will start exercises over an area that violates some of Pakistan's EEZ.

 

[NA71]

@Mighty_Dragon_Strike....just see the complexity of the situation......it is not merely for elections

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

nothing will happen in that particular scenario
my reading

could be wrong, know absolutely nothing about naval warfare!

being honest

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Mighty_Dragon_Strike....just see the complexity of the situation......it is not merely for elections

it is not only for elections, it is for training and war thumping too!

but training is done in silence!

 

[NA71]

it is not only for elections, it is for training and war thumping too!

but training is done in silence!

One way to lower BP .....and have peaceful life until Strom hits ......

 

[That_Guy]

nothing will happen in that particular scenario
my reading

could be wrong, know absolutely nothing about naval warfare!

being honest

Its political, as much as it is military.

Neither side is gonna start a war over this.

 

[Maea]

That is agreed though .. and that is why they have failed twice since 2019. That possibility is always there and the silver lining is that hopefully they will embarrass themselves once more with blunders and mess ups, in this state of warmongering fascism.

The attack at Sir Creek seems to be where the bulk of their power meets, Army, Navy AF. If this time they can be slapped off then hopefully they will pick someone else to bother in the future.

If war can be avoided, should be avoided, ofc.

India wont let go Pakistan easily after may losses. Their whole foreign policy and geostrategic posturing of past 30 years came crushing down with rafales wreckage. They desperately need a victory with great visuals in order to gain back their cough cough "investors" lost confidence.

Pakistani leadership knows this and im sure that they wont allow indians to go unpunished if they were to actually put their plans in action.

 

[NA71]

Its political, as much as it is military.

Neither side is gonna start a war over this.

Again ....I guarantee...Pakistan will not start....but otherside will....otherwise huge strategic loss for India ....it means Pakistan Nuclear Bluff (in their perception) is actively working.

 

[Salza]

nothing will happen in that particular scenario
my reading

could be wrong, know absolutely nothing about naval warfare!

being honest

Indian NOTAM is air based while PN NOTAM is firing from navy ships.

 

[Salza]

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[niubi]

Didn't India and US just sign some defence treaty?

I think not only Brahmos but India will unleash all their suicide drones in an effort to prevent Pakistan's airfields from operating. Even if PAF can get some sorties in, they will not have airfields, hangars or runways to operate from if full scale Indian attacks succeed.

Pakistan needed to amass an offensive arsenal of weapons like thousands of suicide drones and cheaper missiles. This is the only deterrence but Pakistan has neither the AD numbers needed to defend against thousands of suicide drones and hundreds of Brahmos. Nor does Pakistan have an equal ability to fight out a full scale war to the end. Therefore, Pakistan's deterrence falls to nuclear only once its military effectiveness becomes depleted from attrition.

Pakistan needs to make it clear to India that full scale war will escalate to nuclear exchange. Do not try.

In the meantime, it needs to get thousands of suicide drones and cheaper missiles to throw back at India. Ballistic missiles are too expensive to use in such a way for Pakistan and should be reserved for nuclear exchange or high value targets. India's plan in any all out war is to blunt the PAF with non-stop attacks on PAF airfields using cheap suicide drones and missiles. Everything else India simply has more of and capacity to procure and produce more of, faster than Pakistan. How could it possibly win especially with US supporting India or at least staying neutral. China is unlikely to intervene but obviously will supply Pakistan with ISR.