Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

@Cipher212

I do find it odd that we never saw any crash footage or even a distant blaze recorded by someone nearby.

Indeed it is very odd.

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as the time progressed from the morning of 7th, Media blackout - media stream was controlled by GOI and that was evident by 9th.

You have not even acknowledged your dead even so it's indeed odd that you are not asking questions to your forum collogues at BR.
 
@TallGuy

Media blackout - media stream was controlled by GOI and that was evident by 9th.

And that media blackout extended to Chinese satellite companies which couldn't give any evidence of downed planes, destroyed airbases?

so it's indeed odd that you are not asking questions to your forum collogues at BR.

Sadly, not a member of BRF.

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@ARMalik sb

PAF is in fact UNDERSTATING the damage done to IAF.

The Pak Fauj must be the first Fauj in the world to understate the damage done to the enemy.

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Are you changing the IAF motto to भूमि स्पृशं दीप्तम ?


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I guess the national motto should change to "ASatyamev Jayate"
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American president towing Pakistan's narrative? Why does he need to do that? Americans have much more resources (than Pakistan and India's combined) to get the first hand information on what actually transpired. Yes, he is slowly but steadily revealing more on Indian losses (for whatever reasons) but that doesn't really mean that he was lacking the related information in the beginning. Also, what he is saying actually supports Pakistan's claims.
We shouldn't be too thrilled with the Pro-Pak narrative that is being delivered by the west. I suspect this is related to a tested and tried policy of 'dual-containment' ala Iran and Iraq war. Denuking PK and or Eliminating or balkanizing Pakistan at the same time clipping India's wings and making it a vassal state of the US to counter balance China. Propping up one with false praise and support while egging the other on to conflict.
 
@TallGuy

Media blackout - media stream was controlled by GOI and that was evident by 9th.

And that media blackout extended to Chinese satellite companies which couldn't give any evidence of downed planes, destroyed airbases?

so it's indeed odd that you are not asking questions to your forum collogues at BR.

Sadly, not a member of BRF.

Regards


as per journalist who are close to defense circles,

20 ind. jets were either damaged or destroyed!

it is a number, they have'nt changed since day May 7th!

Trump did not disclose 4th damaged Rafale until recently, you have to ask, how much that you know is truth!

and no, c2 nodes that you attacked, did not result in loss of lives on our side
 
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Yes, and I want to add here that PAF had no need/reason to exaggerate any claim either when it comes to the number of aircraft downed, since PAF didn't incur any loss. Exaggeration only comes into play when there are losses on both sides. So in this situation, whether it was 4-0 or 7-0, it had the same image value because of the "0" for PAF -

Nations say things, but their actions reveal the truth.

So....they say that PAF didn't do as much damage as claimed, however they are now hedging their bets on their navy. Why change tactics?

This is undeniable proof that they cannot rely on their air force alone. They may now pursue their naval domain.

Unfortunately, their vikrant will be their achilles heel. Aircraft carriers are utilised by true blue water navies to project power AWAY from their shores. Traditionally, they have been used against weaker nations
(USA vs Yemen, Iraq) or will need to be used in larger numbers to provide air superiority. Pakistan is not weak, is next door and India only has one.

What can a single AC do against Pakistan with a decent naval domain? It will be a liability. If the vikrant gets taken out:

- humiliation. It will be another historical incident.
- what can they do in return that will balance this? Take out 3 of our ships? Take out 5? That is assuming we don't take out more of theirs.

If the vikrant sits it out (by essentially running away so cannot be targeted)....it will still be humiliating. Logically, that is what India should do....move it somewhere safe like the Mediterranean.

I suppose their saving grace is the unknown, unlike the PAF the navy hasn't really seen much action. My 2 pence anyway.....I have no inside knowledge, happy to be corrected.
 
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@Mighty_Dragon_Strike

as per journalist who are close to defense circles,

Which journalist?

20 ind. jets were either damaged or destroyed!

So why is Trump saying only 8?

Regards
no, point is Trump started by 5 jets!

so, according to your version of truth, every body is making these numbers up as they have no evidence!


only question is, why are they making similar numbers?!!

Chinese, Americans, Arabs, Indonesians etc etc!

why they all have the same number of jet losses?!!!
 

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