Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

There is feeling of over confidence.....we are obsessed with May 2025.....we need to think beyond .....

I would call it confidence, not over confidence. India was and still is over confident, we proved our worth.

The fact straight afterwards we are rushing through projects like J-35, Jinnah and more advanced missiles shows we are taking nothing for granted. Fanboy posts on here do not reflect the mindset of our military planners

 

[hasssanali8998]

Why are alleged terrorists carrying ID cards?

same reason terrorist seem to have indestructible passports with them

 

[Dalit]

We need to lot of work on Anti Drone area. We had good long, medium and short range air defense but we lakced weapons to counter drones. For that we need systems like these.
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Countering drones is not easy. Even Houthis managed to infiltrate Israeli airspace using drones.

 

[hnn]

They are deliberately keeping it cool and not naming Pakistan right away, to prevent an uproar that forces their hand against Pakistan. This will spook Pakistan, justify out counter preparations, and will result in their losses when they decide to attack. I highly doubt that they will not attempt a stupid follow up to their May offensive, but they want to keep us guessing till the last moment .....

What are their practical options for a stupid attempt other than launching a silo of missiles?

Without the missiles, if they try an attempt in Sir Creek Area with Army, Navy, and Air Force - they'll hit a stalemate - they aren't catching us by surprise there. The situation is similar at LOC as well, and for that matter the entire Eastern Border.

The best option they have is to launch a barrage of missiles at us in hopes of incapacitating our ABs and MS. However, what are the chances of guaranteed success for such an attempt?

Conventionally, it is a stalemate at this point. Unless they want to take a chance with the war of numbers, they don't have anything else to go with.

Asymmetrical and Proxy Warfare is their next best option, and that's what they are going for, and most likely continue to go for.

Unless they can shit out some Alien Vedic Tech they can't do much about the situation right now.

 

[safriz]

There is feeling of over confidence.....we are obsessed with May 2025.....we need to think beyond .....

India is not gona attack Pakistan this time.
They have not yet fully recovered from May 2025.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Countering drones is not easy. Even Houthis managed to infiltrate Israeli airspace using drones.

yes after sending hundreds of them one slipped by , rn even ttp is using drones on people and a lot of people have been killed by that , we need indigenous anti drone systems and enforce laws like west has ( drones above 250 gram's need to register with FAA ) , or this situation will get soo much worse why send suicide bombers when you can drop mortars on crowds

 

[safriz]

Countering drones is not easy. Even Houthis managed to infiltrate Israeli airspace using drones.

Israel needs a constant scare to unite their people.
Theirs is a different situation

 

[NA71]

India is not gona attack Pakistan this time.
They have not yet fully recovered from May 2025.

It looks like that.....let's wait

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pretty sure someone posted it here, but the "Pakistani wife" ID-card claim was debunked. Here's the original random tweet (don't know what the tweet is talking about), from August 2020, showing the exact picture of the ID card:

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Don't think I should have to state the obvious, but incase any of our friends from the east have doubts: an Indian national ("Dr. Muhammad Umar") cannot have dual citizenship, and therefore (as if thats the only reason, lol), cannot have a Pakistani NIC nor a Pakistani wife with a NIC. Also, the original tweet shows the NIC of an actual Pakistani born Muhammad Umar Farooq, and he looks no where near like the alleged "terrorist" (Indian national Dr. Muhammad Umar).

So this is a "tangent" to this thread, but here goes.

A husband can have an identity card to define them as a person and not have the name of their wife on their personal id card.

Is the "format" of the card correct, ie does a a wife, need to have the name of her husband on her personal id card ? A father makes sense(lineage etc) but husband ???

 

[hnn]

Heck even his appointments in Shaukat aziz had corruption conducted in unbelievable stock market manipulation.

True. Many are unaware of the economic tragedy that began because of Shortcut Aziz's interest laden policies, and the Riaz Real Estate dump hole.

Not only did an ordinary citizen began going under debt directly, the remittances being parked in an unproductive barren piece of land making more money babies for the landlords and elites - completely skewed the economic balance in favor of a few (who might I say to this day are visionless Seths) - 2005 onwards was arguably the tipping point when snowballing of economic peril began.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

this is their 3rd or 2nd tier
look at the mental state of these men...

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[Ibbi32]

4 stars just not enough for some people....

The only reason I appreciate 5 star fm is because it removes the only significant pride of ayub khan that has gone unchallenged. Ayub khan khan considered it his way of being on par with the great generals of the British army. Hafiz shb has one upped him by becoming CDF as well

 

[hnn]

Im not pro mush. but I have lived in Sui Balochistan. I have seen barrage of rockets fired at sui gas compresser plant, to blackmail GOP

Mr. Akbar Bugti, used to get very heavy sums for gas reserves and off the books he was allowed to have vast lands in Sindh and Punjab border areas

you dont know anythin Akbar bugti, he was a blackmailer, had jails full of those who opposed him, kept his clan poor and uneducated


he was also involved in killing of Bhambhore Rifles service men, I know this, because I used to play cricket with their officers

Yes, it's true that Bugti used to blackmail the government like that - but could the situation have been handled better than outright creating a vacuum? I mean, Gen Musharraf himself accepted later on that he could have handled the Lal Masjid incident more politically rather than militarily - though the nuance of Lt Col Haroon Islam's martyrdom and resultantly 3 Cdo going rogue to avenge their CO can be used as a buffer against Gen Musharraf here but then again, 3 Cdo was there in the first place because the situation was allowed to escalate to that point.

 

[maverick]

this is their 3rd or 2nd tier
look at the mental state of these men...

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i bet you, Pakistani infantry and armored Men cant wait to mince them and dispatch them to the eternal depths of hell.

 

[r3alist]

What are their practical options for a stupid attempt other than launching a silo of missiles?

Without the missiles, if they try an attempt in Sir Creek Area with Army, Navy, and Air Force - they'll hit a stalemate - they aren't catching us by surprise there. The situation is similar at LOC as well, and for that matter the entire Eastern Border.

The best option they have is to launch a barrage of missiles at us in hopes of incapacitating our ABs and MS. However, what are the chances of guaranteed success for such an attempt?

Conventionally, it is a stalemate at this point. Unless they want to take a chance with the war of numbers, they don't have anything else to go with.

Asymmetrical and Proxy Warfare is their next best option, and that's what they are going for, and most likely continue to go for.

Unless they can shit out some Alien Vedic Tech they can't do much about the situation right now.

I think an unrealistic notion of risk taking is being projected onto India.

The last 10 years have been an absolute geopolitical sweet spot for India, where you had America literally supportive of India to be more assertive on Pakistan

Before jumping into a military scenario I believe the Indians will think what's the maximum level of action they can take that will not jeopardize investment and trade


It's all their generals ever talk about .... The economy

As trade negotiations are going on it would be effectively a fc UK you to trump if they started any action.

Because certain aspects of the trade deal both parties are diametrically opposed and not moving it could go on for a while


That being said, I do think plenty of low level incidents to test readiness will occur

I could be wrong and modi maybe panics