Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Why do you find it hard to believe? The Ukrainians have destroyed at least a dozen S-400 units, and don't need satellite pictures to prove it because the Russians are themselves forthcoming with the information ( which they balance with information on destruction of Patriots in retaliation).


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Do you think, you can convince anyone who has made their mind already?

Indian wins propaganda and golbal info wars because of thier huge numbers and huge fake news propaganda news outlets and social media presence.

Most of the world just sees that flood of fake posts and articles by retarted Indians and tihink its true, because they have no other way of knowing the facts.

Latest example is Tejas incident, How whole universe is being made to believe the Indian and Tegas superiority and what not, and before and after Indian drama about JF 17.

Professional Militaries do not brag, only Indians do, they became super power in 2020, Raptor of the east, Rafale hota to and list goes on,

India always wins online, but when actual contact is made, Its totally opposit.

All the evidence in with and eithin India, but their brain is not developed enough.....

Pakistan do not need to and cant not show the actual operational evidence. Evidence and all over falling from the skies, IAF, IN and IA gone in hiding and only missiles fired.
Which were also responded by Pakistan with more Power and destruction.

But according to Indian, not a single glass was broken anywhere in India.

What we saw falling from the skies and smokes and fires that was some top secret indian Technology providing protective cover against Pakistani attacks.
 
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Yes Saaar! Next movie is coming out?

No one died man, India was just testing if this happens, what do do. Indian Soldiers and their equipment cant be destroyed or killed.

accept the relity. Please
 
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we should Definitely ask for Chinas help in combating the Hindutva online
Let them win online and we will win on the ground.
No need to play dung and mutra game, they are accoustome since centuries. Our healthy and clean body, mind and soul cant tolerage that stench.

Thanks
 
@Baibers_1260

Thanks for the history.

Now you can tell us what happened to the Karachi Port in 1971?

And what happened to the Ghazi?- I am told it became Ghazi Shaheed.

Regards
Why go so far back in time. Why don’t you tell us what happened to your Supa Powa IAF in May of this very year, when it came with twice the number of jets on the Pakistan side? Must burn u every day no?

Regards
 
Both sides are lying conveniently and often in collision to make the awaam chutiya 😂
 
Why go so far back in time. Why don’t you tell us what happened to your Supa Powa IAF in May of this very year, when it came with twice the number of jets on the Pakistan side? Must burn u every day no?

Regards
The grim reality is that India and Pakistan are locked in a permanent conflict for the foreseeable future. Pakistanis should not be fooled by cricket, Bollywood, food festivals, social media friendly chat forums or decent "peaceful " good English speaking Indians on this forum. We are enemies forever.

There never has been peace, there is no peace now, and there never will be peace between India and Pakistan. This conflict can only end in mutual destruction. Unfortunately India believes differently, that the conflict will end only with the destruction of Pakistan, the occupation of its territory and the enslavement of Pakistani people. Pakistan is facing a savage, evil, determined enemy focused entirely on its destruction.

India believes it will win this war through any of the following strategies
  • Wait out a military standoff with Pakistan without engaging fully, impose an arms race, and force Pakistan's political and economic collapse. This was NATO's strategy towards the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact and it seemed to work.
  • Actively orchestrate ethnic nationalism in Sindh, Baluchistan, and KPK; fund, and arm internal rebellion, and terrorism in alliance with Afghanistan, and get Pakistan involved in a civil war before intervening militarily. The object is to reduce Pakistan to a Punjab only rump state which will then be brought under Sikh rule by offering it to Khalistan or Sikh ruled Indian Punjab. This strategy worked in East Pakistan ( now Bangladesh).
  • Plan and execute a massive air, land and sea assault on Pakistan overwhelming its armed forces, destroying its infrastructure, and reducing all of Pakistan to Gaza like situation , India no longer sees Pakistan's nuclear weapons as a threat because any means that Pakistan has to deliver these weapons have been rendered useless. This strategy was done in the case of the invasion of Iraq by NATO.
We can discuss later why all those scenarios above are unrealistic and bound to fail in the case of Pakistan . What is tragic is that India believes that all or anyone of these scenarios is plausible and feasible. Destruction and death happen only when an enemy misjudges it's adversary and it's own capabilities.
 
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So Do you think…..
The IAF chiefs shameless lies about no Indian planes downed, belated, half hearted, bizarre claims, the ‘operation is ongoing’ so can’t confirm, the ‘numbers do not matter the reason they were shot down matters’ are also proof of ‘mature Indian stance’??
There is only 1 reason why to date they have used every trick in the book to avoid confirming how many of their top jets got smashed and likely never will & that reason is obviously that the number is embarrassingly high & confirming it would be professional suicide for top Indian political and military officials alike. I can understand most Indians believing what they want as this humiliation can’t be easy for them to cope with.
This guy is always like this....
what about IAF Chief's claims of destroying an AWACS with 300km+ range shot and multiple aircrafts destroyed on ground.
 
The grim reality is that India and Pakistan are locked in a permanent conflict for the foreseeable future. Pakistanis should not be fooled by cricket, Bollywood, food festivals, social media friendly chat forums or decent "peaceful " good English speaking Indians on this forum. We are enemies forever.

There never has been peace, there is no peace now, and there never will be peace between India and Pakistan. This conflict can only end in mutual destruction. Unfortunately India believes differently, that the conflict will end only with the destruction of Pakistan, the occupation of its territory and the enslavement of Pakistani people. Pakistan is facing a savage, evil, determined enemy focused entirely on its destruction.

India believes it will win this war through any of the following strategies
  • Wait out a military standoff with Pakistan without engaging fully, impose an arms race, and force Pakistan's political and economic collapse. This was NATO's strategy towards the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact and it seemed to work.
  • Actively orchestrate ethnic nationalism in Sindh, Baluchistan, and KPK; fund, and arm internal rebellion, and terrorism in alliance with Afghanistan, and get Pakistan involved in a civil war before intervening militarily. The object is to reduce Pakistan to a Punjab only rump state which will then be brought under Sikh rule by offering it to Khalistan or Sikh ruled Indian Punjab. This strategy worked in East Pakistan ( now Bangladesh).
  • Plan and execute a massive air, land and sea assault on Pakistan overwhelming its armed forces, destroying its infrastructure, and reducing all of Pakistan to Gaza like situation , India no longer sees Pakistan's nuclear weapons as a threat because any means that Pakistan has to deliver these weapons have been rendered useless. This strategy was done in the case of the invasion of Iraq by NATO.
We can discuss later why all those scenarios above are unrealistic and bound to fail in the case of Pakistan . What is tragic is that India believes that all or anyone of these scenarios is plausible and feasible. Destruction and death happen only when an enemy misjudges it's adversary and it's own capabilities.
I would add that a part of it is Pakistan's own doing, that , by showing unnecessary and stupid so-called "restraint". All the gulfies and arabs and america wanted the ceasefire bcaz their puppy got a little mauling......to protect their shit investments in india.
Otherwise those threats would not have still be coming in by them. So many countries trying to undermine and prevent Pakistan from giving a big response

now it just means the next battles will be more devastating and deadly, probably for both the countries......all bcaz we showed unnecessary restraints in 2019 and again in 2025May
 
I would add that a part of it is Pakistan's own doing, that , by showing unnecessary and stupid so-called "restraint". All the gulfies and arabs and america wanted the ceasefire bcaz their puppy got a little mauling......to protect their shit investments in india.
Otherwise those threats would not have still be coming in by them. So many countries trying to undermine and prevent Pakistan from giving a big response

now it just means the next battles will be more devastating and deadly, probably for both the countries......all bcaz we showed unnecessary restraints in 2019 and again in 2025May
Agree 100% Restraint and civility are meaningless words to an enemy that survives on savagery inflicted on the weak and optics to the rest.
I will answer each scenario I mentioned in my post above , my self

Wait out a military standoff with Pakistan without engaging fully, impose an arms race, and force Pakistan's political and economic collapse. This was NATO's strategy towards the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact and it seemed to work.
The enemy's fond hope is, that it will bankrupt Pakistan ( which according to its own declaration is already "bankrupt " ) by imposing an arms race. It ignores the the fact that strategically Pakistan will always be matching its prime enemy in minimal deterrence.simply because its allies ( China, USA, Turkey,Saudi Arabia ) don't want Pakistan to fail. So if China sells Pakistan PL-15 missiles, the USA upgrades F-16s with AMRAAM D models, Lightning Sniper pods, Russia supplies RD-93 engines, Turkey supplies drones, they all do that knowing that these weapons will be used against India, This was not the case with the Soviet Union which was entirely dependent on its own technology and resources.
The Soviet Union was a threat to the "Western Capitalist" order which Pakistan isn't. But there is a bigger factor at play which is India itself. No country in the world wants India to become more powerful than itself. Therefore the pressure via Pakistan on India is necessary to ensure it stays in line and doesn't get "too big for it's boots". Pakistan must be sustained economically and kept militarily strong just enough to deter any adventurism by India, The May 6-7th skirmish is a stark reminder to India about the support Pakistan has from its allies. C-130s and Y-20 aircraft flew daily multiple back and forth trips in the last week of April 2025 bringing in critical military hardware. A Turkish ADA class corvette TCG Buyukada suddenly made a "good will " visit, and parked itself just outside Karachi harbor showing a cocked fist to the enemy navy with 8 Harpoon missiles and 21 RIM-116 SAM missiles..

The enemy can play optics tempting Pakistan into expensive ventures like a "space race" .programs such as Gaganyan- Bhajanyan. The USA did exactly that with the Soviet Union in the 1960's launching a moon race. The Soviet Union lost the moon-race but apart from optics the defeat did nothing to diminish the Soviet Unions military capabilities, nor affect the outcomes of wars like Vietnam or Cuba,

The nuclear and conventional arms race on earth was far more devastating to the Soviet Union's economy affecting the living standards of even the aviation and space travel celebrities. The first Soviet cosmonauts did not own cars or a own separate houses until well into the 1970s. Likewise India's recent antics by launching Chandrayan planting Indian flags on the Moon and Mars produced copious yawns throughout the Western world . Far more impressive was Nokia and Intuitive Machines feat of delivering the first cellular network to the Moon; via a small module launched from earth and planted on the moon .

Conclusion:
Pakistan will match India's arms acquisitions and have sufficient deterrence to impose costs in a short war.
In a protracted war lasting over 10 days Pakistan will likely lose conventionally and suffer disproportionately but much before that Pakistan will deliver a nuclear strike towards mutual annihilation.
India's miscalculations will be
(a) Pakistan will not use the nuclear option.
(b) All Pakistani nuclear warheads and missiles will be
intercepted.
(c). India will suffer only slight damage and will easily
rebuild to become a $6 trillion economy.
 

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