Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Maarkhoor]

Remember that before the recent interest the JF 17 was already an export success.

So the paf was already on that journey

Defence Packs and surge in sales happens right after when we invited and show the suiters performance of PAF and JF-17.

 

[r3alist]

Defence Packs and surge in sales happens right after when we invited and show the suiters performance of PAF and JF-17.

As well as lots of geopolitical changes and realignments.

I guess the other point is that the jf-17 was already set on a trajectory to increase exports, the news coverage implies turbo charging this which we have to see how it goes.

Here is a sober analysis

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@Vkdindian1 .... If you are inclined to indulge, what do you think

 

[Vkdindian1]

As well as lots of geopolitical changes and realignments.

I guess the other point is that the jf-17 was already set on a trajectory to increase exports, the news coverage implies turbo charging this which we have to see how it goes.

Here is a sober analysis

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@Vkdindian1 .... If you are inclined to indulge, what do you think

Your previous post while replying to me indicated that you are quite cut up with me for raising few valid objections to this hype about JF-17 sales.

You also mentioned Tejas. This thread isn’t about Tejas, hence we can keep that discussion to the relevant thread.

I have no delusions about Tejas either.

Similar delusions are being displayed about JF-17 sales my many fanboys.

As far as this podcast goes, it talks about turbocharging sales through hype. Few other members with Pak flags have raised very valid objections but most others have started calling names on them. Fanboys just can’t accept anything that casts a doubt about such a massive sale out of the blue.

Look at the fighters Indonesia is getting. It is hilarious to see the justifications being given for JF-17 fitting into that mix.

Same goes for KSA. One poster says “slowly” get into Chinese weapons Eco-system. Since JF-17 isn’t purely Chinese stamped, it can sneak in and then bigger boys.

If the target for defence exports was set at 5 Billion USD over next few years then that is still digestible.

Not this BS of 36 Billion in 2024 and now 13 Billion USD.

Let’s wait and see. We will know soon.

I have serious doubts about KSA, Indonesia and Sudan. Almost 0%.

 

[r3alist]

Your previous post while replying to me indicated that you are quite cut up with me for raising few valid objections to this hype about JF-17 sales.

You also mentioned Tejas. This thread isn’t about Tejas, hence we can keep that discussion to the relevant thread.

I have no delusions about Tejas either.

Similar delusions are being displayed about JF-17 sales my many fanboys.

As far as this podcast goes, it talks about turbocharging sales through hype. Few other members with Pak flags have raised very valid objections but most others have started calling names on them. Fanboys just can’t accept anything that casts a doubt about such a massive sale out of the blue.

Look at the fighters Indonesia is getting. It is hilarious to see the justifications being given for JF-17 fitting into that mix.

Same goes for KSA. One poster says “slowly” get into Chinese weapons Eco-system. Since JF-17 isn’t purely Chinese stamped, it can sneak in and then bigger boys.

If the target for defence exports was set at 5 Billion USD over next few years then that is still digestible.

Not this BS of 36 Billion in 2024 and now 13 Billion USD.

Let’s wait and see. We will know soon.

I have serious doubts about KSA, Indonesia and Sudan. Almost 0%.

Why on earth would I be cut up?

This is only good news, even if nothing materializes what is lost?

Pakistan is already on an export journey and that already makes the program a success.

The majority of posters are cautious but welcome the positivity around being South asia's most potent and admired Air force.

The video merely shows expectations are grounded and not excessive heat

Tejas should be the one exporting to these Nations, and it should be an easy market for you to capture.

then again you need to convince yourselves you actually want the plane

 

[Liquidator]

Harop....What is being reported.

It was broght down / hacked and data revealed operator was talking with each other in Hebrew so It is clear that Israeli behind all these operations to help India.

The baby killing Israeli Nazis have a bone to pick with Pakistan seen as we downed their jets a few decades ago.

 

[flyingorca]

At one hand these saffron morons boosting that IAF won the last war but on the other hand they are accepting that we have to but Ra-Phales despite failures.

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Not sure French will allow them about source code even they are hoping that since they are paying twice so they will get it.

They are buying Ra-Phales twice the price rest of the countries bought or buying it.

France sees India as a cash cow and India wants France so they can provide technology for their AMCA, LCA and jet engine technologies. This explains ridiculous price for mere 150~ Rafales.
J-10 is Rafale F3 killer and J35 will be Rafale F4 F5 killers

 

[PK781]

Another contribution of the Pakistan India conflict.

India losing the Gulf? How China, Pakistan fill strategic and economic space amid Delhi's transactional balancing act

India losing the Gulf? How China, Pakistan fill strategic and economic space amid Delhi's transactional balancing act

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The Indians are in complete panic.

For sure they have to panic.

The entire Arab world has woken up (after the Doha strike). They are now realizing that they were banking and dreaming on the wrong (indian) horse which is bullshit. Indian hindutva govt humiliated itself and its own military in May2025 and when Pakistan actually showed its muscle and capability, they realized they were gravely mistaken for thinkin that the indian/hindutva is all fake bravado and nothingburger in reality

indian spies constantly being caught spying for israel in many countries and these countries are now doing a cleanup and sniffing out the moles and mossad agents.........like Iran, Qatar, etc. The so-called indian muslim is just a small peon type who nobody gives a shit about.

The "near the end time" prophecies cannot and don't have anything to do with moditva/hindutva of india......its all about the Islamic/Muslim countries and Pakistan has a big part to play in that.

india needs to worry about its own upcoming balkanization from within. Coming soon. That economy will be in gutter soon.

 

[Baibers_1260]

India lost a large number of aircraft without Pakistan being able to produce a SINGLE battle damage picture of anything at ANY IAF base. And please don’t start peddling those hazy Google earth pics again. Please sell them to your folks.

While Pakistan didn’t loose a single aircraft inspite of so many missiles hitting many buildings supposedly housing aircraft with crystal clear images of the damage.

Kuch to reham kar lo mere bhai?

CDS Lt General Anil Chauhan.. "Numbers are not important..."
Our answer : " Satellite pictures are not important....what is more important is the screaming in the Indian parliament "

 

[ThoroughPro]

India lost a large number of aircraft without Pakistan being able to produce a SINGLE battle damage picture of anything at ANY IAF base. And please don’t start peddling those hazy Google earth pics again. Please sell them to your folks.

While Pakistan didn’t loose a single aircraft inspite of so many missiles hitting many buildings supposedly housing aircraft with crystal clear images of the damage.

Kuch to reham kar lo mere bhai?

your chief said, "Pakistanis even knew what plane was being readied with which missiles on which airbase in real time". Some retards just can't comprehend what that translates to in terms of capability but we know all this denials are for someone to get angry and share our capabilities and that is not going to happen. We know where we stand and don't care what internet fanboys think.

 

[TAC]

Your previous post while replying to me indicated that you are quite cut up with me for raising few valid objections to this hype about JF-17 sales.

You also mentioned Tejas. This thread isn’t about Tejas, hence we can keep that discussion to the relevant thread.

I have no delusions about Tejas either.

Similar delusions are being displayed about JF-17 sales my many fanboys.

As far as this podcast goes, it talks about turbocharging sales through hype. Few other members with Pak flags have raised very valid objections but most others have started calling names on them. Fanboys just can’t accept anything that casts a doubt about such a massive sale out of the blue.

Look at the fighters Indonesia is getting. It is hilarious to see the justifications being given for JF-17 fitting into that mix.

Same goes for KSA. One poster says “slowly” get into Chinese weapons Eco-system. Since JF-17 isn’t purely Chinese stamped, it can sneak in and then bigger boys.

If the target for defence exports was set at 5 Billion USD over next few years then that is still digestible.

Not this BS of 36 Billion in 2024 and now 13 Billion USD.

Let’s wait and see. We will know soon.

I have serious doubts about KSA, Indonesia and Sudan. Almost 0%.

Obviously nothing is confirmed until it is but there is no denying that a lot of interest is being shown, thanks to Indian Sindoor debacle. A Pak defence official specifically said that any deals will be kept secret but you’ll find out when jets are delivered. Your core problem is that you are very butt hurt at any prospect of further JF-17 exports for obvious reasons.

 

[Shui]

Indian in the comment section be like, sarrr, Pakistan no comparsion, please make a video compare with China, we should focus on China.

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[Sainthood 2.0]

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We'll end up becoming a Chinese client state to maintain this arms race
But it's not like we have another choice, unfortunately

 

[Shui]

We'll end up becoming a Chinese client state to maintain this arms race
But it's not like we have another choice, unfortunately

I don't think so, you have remain a strong tied with Middle east countries and other Islamic countries like Turkey and Indonesia, plus I think Pakistan should be consider both lucky and unlucky at the same time having India as your neighbor, they are so incompetent and fucked up hard with such population and resources, still importing 4.5th gen jets and probably have to import 5th gen aswell, had it being another nation with this landmass and polulation......

 

[flyingorca]

We'll end up becoming a Chinese client state to maintain this arms race
But it's not like we have another choice, unfortunately

Whats wrong with that? If Europe Korea Japan can become western exclusive arms client dont see problem if Pakistan acquires Chinese arms only. Plus Pakistan also has close defense ties with Turkey and few other countries.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Rehem.....that's why "restraint" was shown.
Seems you may have missed that?

That was really nice of your commanders.
Inspite of bases and radars getting destroyed with sub-metric accuracy they decided to stand down.
Inspite of bases getting bombed , was India making calls.

Dil bahut badaa hai aapke commanders ka. May they keep having such a big heart.