Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Saifullah]

Will just be sending men to their deaths, there are lots of radar guided AA and Manpads along the LOC.

True but what about Rajasthan or Gujarat? Their low RCS, slow speed, and lower altitude would mean harder to detect. Target key supply lines or sabotage enemy build up and send in paragliders at night. They can be useful in capturing the islands in Gujarat’s Kutch/Indus delta area to strengthen Pakistan control over Sir Creek.
Sending like 1000 paragliders would cost the same as a few BM’s or CM’s but much more lethal if successful. Sending them among LM swarms could help disguise them.

 

[Toxic]

True but what about Rajasthan or Gujarat? Their low RCS, slow speed, and lower altitude would mean harder to detect. Target key supply lines or sabotage enemy build up and send in paragliders at night. They can be useful in capturing the islands in Gujarat’s Kutch/Indus delta area to strengthen Pakistan control over Sir Creek.
Sending like 1000 paragliders would cost the same as a few BM’s or CM’s but much more lethal if successful. Sending them among LM swarms could help disguise them.

It would be even worse since atleast there are mountains and hills that can mask low flying Paragliders but Gujrat is relatively flat, we would be better off investing in armoured assault boats for creek operations.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Kashmiri Muslims played a big part in this.

yes true but atleast some of them resist , unlike the rest

they could have have been free if they acted like people from gilgit batistan

 

[kimjongun]

I like how the members here just ask @Panzerkiel about new missiles being inducted and what not while we all know about the monitoring these sites get lolz
I bet a butthurt indian from DFB or Strat front would be taking ss and talking shit like they always do , himmat hai toh bhai login krke baat kro , ye scene zoner bnne ki kya zaroorat hai?

 

[kimjongun]

True but what about Rajasthan or Gujarat? Their low RCS, slow speed, and lower altitude would mean harder to detect. Target key supply lines or sabotage enemy build up and send in paragliders at night. They can be useful in capturing the islands in Gujarat’s Kutch/Indus delta area to strengthen Pakistan control over Sir Creek.
Sending like 1000 paragliders would cost the same as a few BM’s or CM’s but much more lethal if successful. Sending them among LM swarms could help disguise them.

Paragliding is not for countries like Pakistan or india , conflicts wont go long like we had before and these hot but quick skermishes would be fought with missiles and drones , so the investment should go into increasing stockpiles.

 

[Panzerkiel]

I like how the members here just ask @Panzerkiel about new missiles being inducted and what not while we all know about the monitoring these sites get lolz
I bet a butthurt indian from DFB or Strat front would be taking ss and talking shit like they always do , himmat hai toh bhai login krke baat kro , ye scene zoner bnne ki kya zaroorat hai?

 

[baqai]

if we meet here sometime, then i'll unravel the whole story...

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willing to come ... do they serve Pakola or Rooh Afza? asking for a friend ...

 

[baqai]

sir any news about any missile which are used by navy, air force and rockeforce (i mean same missile for each). if its secret then dnt reveal any thing. but if you can plz share something

ghar ka address, phone numer aur DOB bhool gaye aap bhai

 

[Saifullah]

It would be even worse since atleast there are mountains and hills that can mask low flying Paragliders but Gujrat is relatively flat, we would be better off investing in armoured assault boats for creek operations.

Gujarat isn’t as heavily defended as Kashmir and it’s sparsely populated. Paragliders would only be going like 30-40 kms deep just to capture the islands in Gujarat to take control of all of Sir Creek and Kutch. The flight time isn’t more than 30 mins max. Paragliders would already be hard to distinguish from LMs on radar and at night it’ll be hard for ground troops to accurately target all of them. Part of the strategy would be overwhelming the area for a short period of time. Imagine a 30 minute window where artillery is pounding Indian positions while LM’s and hundreds of paragliders are crossing the border into Southern Gujarat. Israelis failed to detect Hamas paragliders while having much better AD than India. Israelis regularly fail to intercept LMs. Even if Indians use SAM’s to engage the they wasted a whole missile on a cheap paraglider. There would obviously be casualties but even if half the paragliders get shot down, the other half landing behind enemy lines is enough.
Armoured assault boats cost hundreds of thousands to low millions for one. They can be countered by anything from atgms to Indian navy ships.
A paraglider would cost $10k carrying 1-2 soldiers deep behind enemy lines. The only threats would be Manpads, AA guns and SAMs. Night time flight, low RCS & speed, simultaneous LM attack, and artillery cover would significantly reduce these threats. Now imagine risking 1-2k soldiers and 1k paragliders to attack 40 kms deep inside southern Gujarat just bypassing all the islands in Sir Creek area. You basically surround Indians there and end up protecting Karachi by forcing Indians to fight for Gujarat.

 

[Saifullah]

Paragliding is not for countries like Pakistan or india , conflicts wont go long like we had before and these hot but quick skermishes would be fought with missiles and drones , so the investment should go into increasing stockpiles.

Imo that makes paragliding even better. How many days will it take heavy armour to go a few kms inside India? We’ve seen the stalemates in Russia vs Ukraine war.
Imagine paragliding troops in right before a ceasefire. That’ll instantly strengthen Pakistan’s position during negotiations.
This will be in addition to drones and missiles not taking away from them.
A few hundred paragliders would cost the same as a single Shaheen 3 probably.

 

[Toxic]

Gujarat isn’t as heavily defended as Kashmir and it’s sparsely populated. Paragliders would only be going like 30-40 kms deep just to capture the islands in Gujarat to take control of all of Sir Creek and Kutch. The flight time isn’t more than 30 mins max. Paragliders would already be hard to distinguish from LMs on radar and at night it’ll be hard for ground troops to accurately target all of them. Part of the strategy would be overwhelming the area for a short period of time. Imagine a 30 minute window where artillery is pounding Indian positions while LM’s and hundreds of paragliders are crossing the border into Southern Gujarat. Israelis failed to detect Hamas paragliders while having much better AD than India. Israelis regularly fail to intercept LMs. Even if Indians use SAM’s to engage the they wasted a whole missile on a cheap paraglider. There would obviously be casualties but even if half the paragliders get shot down, the other half landing behind enemy lines is enough.
Armoured assault boats cost hundreds of thousands to low millions for one. They can be countered by anything from atgms to Indian navy ships.
A paraglider would cost $10k carrying 1-2 soldiers deep behind enemy lines. The only threats would be Manpads, AA guns and SAMs. Night time flight, low RCS & speed, simultaneous LM attack, and artillery cover would significantly reduce these threats. Now imagine risking 1-2k soldiers and 1k paragliders to attack 40 kms deep inside southern Gujarat just bypassing all the islands in Sir Creek area. You basically surround Indians there and end up protecting Karachi by forcing Indians to fight for Gujarat.

Ok let's say you managed to get a thousand men behind the frontline with Paragliders what then? They will be surrounded on all sides with no resupply and no Heavy equipment so you are sending them out on a suicide mission.

 

[maxpane]

ghar ka address, phone numer aur DOB bhool gaye aap bhai

sir olz look at my first text i said if its secret then dnt reveal or talk. am bloody civilian but i know my limit

 

[Saifullah]

Ok let's say you managed to get a thousand men behind the frontline with Paragliders what then? They will be surrounded on all sides with no resupply and no Heavy equipment so you are sending them out on a suicide mission.

Them being behind the frontlines means Indians send resources to deal with them. They take away strength and resources from their front lines to protect their rear or arrange it from somewhere else. The goal of the paragliders could be destroying the Indian side of the front lines or stopping supplies going there. Finding 1k soldiers scattered behind your front lines isn’t easy. They’ve probably would have a week’s worth of supplies. It’s like fighting a mini insurgency right behind your front lines while fighting an enemy from the front. The goal would be to cause India’s frontlines to break with it.
Also as you said, future Pakistan-India wars will be short so long term supplies isn’t needed. And yes it would be basically suicide or victory. But the rewards are very high if successful.
History is full of such operations behind enemy lines and has proven if they’re successful they can lead to winning the battle/war.

 

[StormBreaker]

Good brother, well. How are you?

All good bro

 

[StormBreaker]

War is coming. It will happen this year or the next. Next round won’t be a short war or skirmish, but a large scale war. Hindutva zios get their confidence from Zionists. You can’t expect peace in a world with leaders like Trump, Nethanyhu, and modi. The next war will likely be an existential one for Pakistan.
Pakistan should follow Irans strategy by creating a regional war if India attacks Pakistan. Whatever it takes ISI must use Bangladesh, Maldives and Indian Muslims against India during war. Bangladesh should be to Pakistan what Iraq or Yemen is to Iran in any future war with India. Maldives can be used to covertly host Shahed type drones to threaten Southern Indian. Indian Muslims can threaten Indian airbases deep inside India with quadcopter type drones.
Pakistan should establish a covert hybrid naval force. They would be disguised as fishing boats or commercial vessels operating as normal during peace time. During war time these ships could covertly launch Shahed type drones at Indian commercial vessels or to target Indian cities like Kolkata, Chennai, and Indian Andaman and Nicobar islands.

China will penetrate India before this war turns existential.