Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Vapnope said:
What is wrong with nationalism? Do you want horde of people using any other ideology for a nation state? I am confused.
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hyper nationalism practiced in Pakistan where one idara and its boss is revered worshipped like a deity is not nationalism...we need open discourse need to hold them accountable.

why is there no open discussion about failure to get our share of water why does that make someone a traitor!
 
newb3e said:
hyper nationalism practiced in Pakistan where one idara and its boss is revered worshipped like a deity is not nationalism...we need open discourse need to hold them accountable.

why is there no open discussion about failure to get our share of water why does that make someone a traitor!
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I agree with you. Hypernationalism is a cancer.
 
Water issue should be discussed with trump. I mean we can force trump to help us as he needs our help also. There is no better way to put pressure on India. Why Iran American mediation is without any advantage for Pakistan?

India is preparing for an all out war. They sent messages to every citizen of india. It's like some emergency alert system. Why now? Look at the timing!

We are too invested in useless mediation and risking Arabs anger.

We need to focus on India. Is India arming every su-30 with r-37m on an emergency basis? They will not fight until they have the advantage.

We must think about integrating pl-17 on jf-17 block 3. The missile is probably in development and it might be hard to integrate it on jf-17.

What other options do we have? I think India is only waiting for some incident. Silent mobilization shows rapid ground attack which means they have something sinister in their minds.
 
Oscar said:
I have a feeling they were testing the appetite for the public in terms of minor blasts.
If you recall the last time supposedly explosive evidence went off in this bsf/police station and conveniently destroyed itself and other case files related to the investigation.

So for them the issue has to be a series of events that occur in rapid succession that justify the southern axis buildup release.

My guess is that their most of their military commanders have rightly told them they are not ready yet but the hawks in their military (usually the mediocre ones) are egged on with their political contacts to say it is doable now.

The narrative might be “limited is hobbling us - we need to throw overwhelming force in every sphere” to achieve acceptable objectives to hobble Pakistan and get a favorable ceasefire.

It may seem Pakistan has “cards” in this Iran war situation but it is hiding a facade of total economic failure and inability for traditional allies to really step in.
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I believe that their army and government are on the same page and after a long time, military likes the government.

What if a blast happen in India? What do you think about sindoor 2? Is it on a much larger scale?

We have seen silent mobilization. It points towards ground invasion. Obviously you have seen videos of emergency alert system to civilians. All this doesn't make sense. I mean mobilization,mock drills, sirens, blackouts, emergency alert systems.

What's the real plan? Are they waiting for the ultimate united states and Iran war so that they can attack? What are the chances that they will attack Pakistan without a bomb blast? More like a surprise that we aren't expecting.

Also the water issue. They are making us dry. Without water, we will become a desert. This water issue seems to be a bigger issue that can turn into a last battle between India and Pakistan.
 
Oscar said:
They have a mandate to go "Sir jee barkhurdar ne aap ke tareef pe gana banadiya!"
And the ones who are their gatekeepers to the top tell them "Shabashe! Aur Chaaat! - Itna chaat ke teri zaban pe koi jagah chiknahat se khali na ho"
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All I can say is "Eww".
 
Oscar said:
ایک پاگل خانے میں ایک آدمی لایا گیا جو بار بار یہی دہراتا تھا: “غلیل بنا کے چڑیا مارے!”

ڈاکٹر نے پوچھا تو اس کے رشتہ داروں نے بتایا کہ یہ بس یہی سوچتا رہتا ہے۔ ڈاکٹر نے مہینوں علاج کیا—دوائیں دیں، مشورے دیے، زندگی کی بھلائی سمجھائی کہ دنیا خوبصورت ہے، آگے بڑھو، وسوسہ چھوڑو۔ آہستہ آہستہ آدمی بہتر ہوا۔
آخر میں انٹرویو لیا گیا کہ کیا حال ہے؟

انٹرویوئر: اب کیا کرو گے باہر جا کر؟


آدمی: نوکری کروں گا۔
انٹرویوئر: نوکری کے بعد؟

آدمی: گھر خریدوں گا۔
انٹرویوئر: گھر کے بعد؟

آدمی: شادی کروں گا۔
انٹرویوئر: شادی کے بعد؟

آدمی: بچے پیدا کروں گا۔
انٹرویوئر: بچوں کے ساتھ کیا کرو گے؟

آدمی: ان کے ساتھ گھر میں رہوں گا، صحن میں کھیلوں گے۔
انٹرویوئر: صحن کیسی ہو گی؟

آدمی: صحن میں درخت ہوں گے، مضبوط شاخیں ہوں گی۔ بچے ان پر چڑھ کر کھیلیں گے۔


انٹرویوئر: پھر کیا ہو گا؟
آدمی: (خوشی سے) ایک دن صحن میں چڑیا دیکھوں گا… تو ایک شاخ توڑ لوں گا… غلیل بنا کے چڑیا ماروں گا!
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I thought only English can be used on the forum? I can't read Urdu.
 
newb3e said:
you have comprehension issue?

educate public
open discussion
fight case in court
war if needed with support of international community
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Educate public? In a country with one of the highest illiteracy rates in the world? Good luck. And what exactly would you "educate" them about?
Open discussion? So basically just talk and argue? As if Pakistanis don't do enough of that already.
Which court would that be? In case you've been living under a rock recently, there's no such thing as "international law".
War was imposed on Pakistan last May, whether you liked it or not. You're dealing with a fascist enemy that wants to eliminate you, it killed innocent women and children in mosques.
 
Corax said:
Educate public? In a country with one of the highest illiteracy rates in the world? Good luck. And what exactly would you "educate" them about?
Open discussion? So basically just talk and argue? As if Pakistanis don't do enough of that already.
Which court would that be? In case you've been living under a rock recently, there's no such thing as "international law".
War was imposed on Pakistan last May, whether you liked it or not. You're dealing with a fascist enemy that wants to eliminate you, it killed innocent women and children in mosques.
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why is idara superior then people?
open discussions lead to accountability why idara run away from accountability and look for excuses?
even if there is no law and justice Pakistan being an Islamic state should always strive for justice!

but lets agree to disagree!
 
newb3e said:
why is idara superior then people?
open discussions lead to accountability why idara run away from accountability and look for excuses?
even if there is no law and justice Pakistan being an Islamic state should always strive for justice!

but lets agree to disagree!
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I don't know what world you live in, but Pakistan is not an Islamic state, it's a Muslim nation, there's a difference. And you don't need an Islamic state to strive for justice.
 
EDITORIAL: A year since India launched unprovoked attacks against Pakistan using the Pahalgam tragedy as an excuse, and this country defended itself with full vigour, the stalemate in South Asia continues.

The principal reason for this remains India’s obduracy and its unwillingness for a peaceful settlement with Pakistan. As conflict engulfs the rest of the region, New Delhi should be thinking of ways to bring down the temperature bilaterally. But unfortunately, the Indian leadership remains wedded to bellicosity, with senior figures in the BJP-led government continuing to threaten Pakistan.

Last May’s brief Pakistan-India war brought several truths to the fore, and offered lessons for those willing to learn.

Read full editorial here: https://www.dawn.com/news/1997922
 
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