Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Thinking]

As if one can't acquire some weapons in India right.

Indeed. There is open market at laal chowk for Ak-47.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Indeed. There is open market at laal chowk for Ak-47.

And Kashmiris in IoK have no need to fight back plans for ethnic cleansing by settling outsiders in disputed area who's fate is yet to be decided under UN resolutions?

You keep 700k army to control 5 million Kashmiris and want to pretend its Pakistanis coming over to kill non-locals? The world saw through your shit after pahalgam for this reason.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

"J&K Police Sources: Lashkar terrorist Latief Bhat carried out both attacks in South Kashmir. He killed Head Constable Ashiq Hussain in Anantnag on July 22 and two non-local labourers in Kulgam on July 31. He acted alone, using an AK-47."

See how post 2025 May drubbing by Pakistan, India now find local kashmiris responsible for these attacks? Before that they used to blame Pakistanis infiltrators the moment something happened.

 

[Master Chief]

Indeed. There is open market at laal chowk for Ak-47.

There are also open markets for Pakistani ammunition casings, Pakistani currency, Pakistani I.d. cards and passports, and Pakistani paan packets.

Why have these not yet been found at the crime scene?

Did something change in your local policing methodology?

 

[hussain0216]

In case it was missed but airspace ban for indian airlines was again extended to Aug 23rd

Why extend it, just ban any Indian airlines permanently

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger. Shall I take my AK47 out.

This guy is not well. Please don't take him seriously.

 

[Trailer23]

Okay..., here is an Official article from the US Naval Institute..., written by (a serving) Lieutenant Commander Brian Hall, (U.S. Navy).

And though the article is about U.S. Navy's strike fighter community that is facing a growing experience gap as experienced pilots leave the fleet faster than they can be replaced.

There is the one bit Lt. Cdr. speaks about the PAK-India Conflict of 2025.

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Link: Strike-Fighter Aviation’s Expertise Crisis
Artile is looooong & f#*kin' boring. But the reference is in the 5th Paragraph incase you're going through the actual article.

ENDians are still looking for Internet Nobodies to side with them & their Sindoor. They'll start searching the internet for some retard from Australia or Switzerland to counter this article.

#L​

@RescueRanger @Musings @Oscar @Waz
@AeronautIR @Irfan Baloch
@airwolf137 @Ali_Baba @alphapak @Areesh @ARMalik @Aziqbal @baqai @Bilal @Bratva @Cookie Monster @DESERT FIGHTER @Dil Pakistan @Distant_Observer @Falcon26 @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gripen9 @HRK @Hakikat ve Hikmet @hasssanali8998 @I*R*A @Jungibaaz @Khanivore @Khansaheeb @KingQamaR @Liquidator @Maarkhoor @Master Chief @Meengla @maverick @Mighty_Dragon_Strike @Mrc @mythbuster @NA71 @Olympus81 @PakAl @Pak Defender @PakistaniDefender @PakShaheen79 @Panzerkiel @peagle @PK781 @pwfi @r3alist @Raja Porus @Reichmarshal @SaadH @SiliconBit (silicon0000) @SteppeWolff @Starlord @super falcon @TAC @TOPGUN @TopGun786 @Truth Seeker @UndercoverJIX @Vapnope @Vortex @Yasser76 @Zarvan @ziaulislam

 

[KingQamaR]

 

[mythbuster]

Okay..., here is an Official article from the US Naval Institute..., written by (a serving) Lieutenant Commander Brian Hall, (U.S. Navy).

And though the article is about U.S. Navy's strike fighter community that is facing a growing experience gap as experienced pilots leave the fleet faster than they can be replaced.

There is the one bit Lt. Cdr. speaks about the PAK-India Conflict of 2025.

View attachment 209244​

Link: Strike-Fighter Aviation’s Expertise Crisis
Artile is looooong & f#*kin' boring. But the reference is in the 5th Paragraph incase you're going through the actual article.

ENDians are still looking for Internet Nobodies to side with them & their Sindoor. They'll start searching the internet for some retard from Australia or Switzerland to counter this article.

#L​

@RescueRanger @Musings @Oscar @Waz
@AeronautIR @Irfan Baloch
@airwolf137 @Ali_Baba @alphapak @Areesh @ARMalik @Aziqbal @baqai @Bilal @Bratva @Cookie Monster @DESERT FIGHTER @Dil Pakistan @Distant_Observer @Falcon26 @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gripen9 @HRK @Hakikat ve Hikmet @hasssanali8998 @I*R*A @Jungibaaz @Khanivore @Khansaheeb @KingQamaR @Liquidator @Maarkhoor @Master Chief @Meengla @maverick @Mighty_Dragon_Strike @Mrc @mythbuster @NA71 @Olympus81 @PakAl @Pak Defender @PakistaniDefender @PakShaheen79 @Panzerkiel @peagle @PK781 @pwfi @r3alist @Raja Porus @Reichmarshal @SaadH @SiliconBit (silicon0000) @SteppeWolff @Starlord @super falcon @TAC @TOPGUN @TopGun786 @Truth Seeker @UndercoverJIX @Vapnope @Vortex @Yasser76 @Zarvan @ziaulislam

Probably you're a pilot and will understand what I am going to tell you...J 10 , pl 15 and AWACs , all worked in harmony however the most important factor in this skirmish was geometrical edge that the paf gained , without this edge this level of success was not possible....kudos to the brilliance of our pilots and mastery of tactical maneuvers .

 

[Trailer23]

Probably you're a pilot and will understand what I am going to tell you...

Not even close, yaar. I'm not anywhere as talented or fortunate as @AeronautIR .

 

[mythbuster]

Not even close, yaar. I'm not anywhere as talented or fortunate as @AeronautIR .

It's probably the age factor , I find it difficult to keep track of all interactions...if you can fly the kites then you can figure out what I meant.

 

[MasterChief]

Okay..., here is an Official article from the US Naval Institute..., written by (a serving) Lieutenant Commander Brian Hall, (U.S. Navy).

And though the article is about U.S. Navy's strike fighter community that is facing a growing experience gap as experienced pilots leave the fleet faster than they can be replaced.

There is the one bit Lt. Cdr. speaks about the PAK-India Conflict of 2025.

View attachment 209244​

Link: Strike-Fighter Aviation’s Expertise Crisis
Artile is looooong & f#*kin' boring. But the reference is in the 5th Paragraph incase you're going through the actual article.

ENDians are still looking for Internet Nobodies to side with them & their Sindoor. They'll start searching the internet for some View attachment 209245 retard from Australia or Switzerland to counter this article.

#L​

@RescueRanger @Musings @Oscar @Waz
@AeronautIR @Irfan Baloch
@airwolf137 @Ali_Baba @alphapak @Areesh @ARMalik @Aziqbal @baqai @Bilal @Bratva @Cookie Monster @DESERT FIGHTER @Dil Pakistan @Distant_Observer @Falcon26 @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gripen9 @HRK @Hakikat ve Hikmet @hasssanali8998 @I*R*A @Jungibaaz @Khanivore @Khansaheeb @KingQamaR @Liquidator @Maarkhoor @Master Chief @Meengla @maverick @Mighty_Dragon_Strike @Mrc @mythbuster @NA71 @Olympus81 @PakAl @Pak Defender @PakistaniDefender @PakShaheen79 @Panzerkiel @peagle @PK781 @pwfi @r3alist @Raja Porus @Reichmarshal @SaadH @SiliconBit (silicon0000) @SteppeWolff @Starlord @super falcon @TAC @TOPGUN @TopGun786 @Truth Seeker @UndercoverJIX @Vapnope @Vortex @Yasser76 @Zarvan @ziaulislam

Nice find here .

 

[Oscar]

There is a massive focus change which is also why many of you are waiting on "visible" procurement news and frustrated because it is "jero bisibibility"

The MEA conflict is causing another shift focused on scale - and even countries with the latest and greatest are pivoting to how much more effective cheap swarms are even if you lost 90% of them to air defenses.

Your neighbors have been smartly focused on that at VERY VERY high gear while you are too but perhaps not that much.

Think CRPA(which you are considering) but the Indians are looking to get via Russia/Israeli and other sources which will make your past successes in spoofing rather useless so you're forced to expend kinetic elements.
In return you're investing in more last mile systems and leaving the more expensive procurements for fixed wing or higher priced threats.

These are not cheap - but your enemy is scaling both in air and sea based unmanned systems to bypass your A2/AD systems.

Think a typical fishing boat that you will ignore and the Indians have packed with explosives that comes and rams into a submarine you are about to deploy.
So much for Harbah's or Smash.

You're falling behind in certain spaces while ahead in others - but this is where it is slowly going - they are trying their best to find shoot and scoot systems in Arty which you got ahead in and made them show white flags in certain places because their CTR bty systems simply could not react fast enough EVEN WITH UAV surveillance.

So - dont be disheartened if you dont see J=35s or new vipers - the game is moving to where you should be more interested in whether some random factory in Chiniot is in reality churning out 50 suicide munitions per week.

 

[PK781]

There is a massive focus change which is also why many of you are waiting on "visible" procurement news and frustrated because it is "jero bisibibility"

The MEA conflict is causing another shift focused on scale - and even countries with the latest and greatest are pivoting to how much more effective cheap swarms are even if you lost 90% of them to air defenses.

Your neighbors have been smartly focused on that at VERY VERY high gear while you are too but perhaps not that much.

Think CRPA(which you are considering) but the Indians are looking to get via Russia/Israeli and other sources which will make your past successes in spoofing rather useless so you're forced to expend kinetic elements.
In return you're investing in more last mile systems and leaving the more expensive procurements for fixed wing or higher priced threats.

These are not cheap - but your enemy is scaling both in air and sea based unmanned systems to bypass your A2/AD systems.

Think a typical fishing boat that you will ignore and the Indians have packed with explosives that comes and rams into a submarine you are about to deploy.
So much for Harbah's or Smash.

You're falling behind in certain spaces while ahead in others - but this is where it is slowly going - they are trying their best to find shoot and scoot systems in Arty which you got ahead in and made them show white flags in certain places because their CTR bty systems simply could not react fast enough EVEN WITH UAV surveillance.

So - dont be disheartened if you dont see J=35s or new vipers - the game is moving to where you should be more interested in whether some random factory in Chiniot is in reality churning out 50 suicide munitions per week.

Can we rest assured that if it comes down to it in reality that IF warranted that Pak will eventually NEED to use those nukes if things get into uncontrolled territory and it becomes an existential threat
They will then serve their purpose hopefully

 

[Waterboy]

There is a massive focus change which is also why many of you are waiting on "visible" procurement news and frustrated because it is "jero bisibibility"

The MEA conflict is causing another shift focused on scale - and even countries with the latest and greatest are pivoting to how much more effective cheap swarms are even if you lost 90% of them to air defenses.

Your neighbors have been smartly focused on that at VERY VERY high gear while you are too but perhaps not that much.

Think CRPA(which you are considering) but the Indians are looking to get via Russia/Israeli and other sources which will make your past successes in spoofing rather useless so you're forced to expend kinetic elements.
In return you're investing in more last mile systems and leaving the more expensive procurements for fixed wing or higher priced threats.

These are not cheap - but your enemy is scaling both in air and sea based unmanned systems to bypass your A2/AD systems.

Think a typical fishing boat that you will ignore and the Indians have packed with explosives that comes and rams into a submarine you are about to deploy.
So much for Harbah's or Smash.

You're falling behind in certain spaces while ahead in others - but this is where it is slowly going - they are trying their best to find shoot and scoot systems in Arty which you got ahead in and made them show white flags in certain places because their CTR bty systems simply could not react fast enough EVEN WITH UAV surveillance.

So - dont be disheartened if you dont see J=35s or new vipers - the game is moving to where you should be more interested in whether some random factory in Chiniot is in reality churning out 50 suicide munitions per week.

My humble opinion is to localise Air defence especially shorad and medium range. That is more monumental then J 35 atm. Basically build missile base under mountains that can't be penetrated.