Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Be dazzled]

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Tell us and kill him.

 

[KingQamaR]

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Old school!!! Classic hahaha

 

[KingQamaR]

Tell us and kill him.

Bro you can’t keep secrets sorry …

 

[TsAr]

Yar you have Google maps Jao aur Zara Delhi aur dosri installations ko check you will get your answer

I am talking about narrative building, demoralizing the enemy and it's population. You can do that by telling someone to go to Google maps. The picture of bholari hanger has become a face saving symbol for the IAF in India.

 

[TsAr]

How long does it take PAF to scramble JC10s/ F16s fighters in air once incoming hostile aircraft alarm goes off?

Are you serious mate...

 

[Cipher212]

The assertion that Pakistani missiles did some considerable damage aren't supported with satellite pics. So where did all the Fatah-1 / A2G ordinance PAF supposedly fire go? Missed and off the mark is the next assumption if we dont see any damage in satellite pics.. Meanwhile we have videos/Satellite pics of Indian missiles hitting kirana hills and bases with pinpoint accuracy.

I do not think they ever intended to hit the base of Kirana hills. There was nothing there. Must have been headed for the airbase.

May be a faulty missile or one of those 'soft kills'

 

[AeronautIR]

This induction is more for an anti drone warfare. Swarm of drones can be handled through these mobile system as Army will position them at around every major base/installation(s) in numbers. HQ16/17 are more dedicated for fighter jets and incoming misiles.

Yes, SHORADS are mainly for cruise missile threat now, as fighter jets don't come over the targets for strike anymore. The other C-UAS systems are CIWS or VSHORADS, with main focus on anti-drone role alongside EW and non-kinetic countermeasures.

 

[Starlord]

Dil ki baat kehdii....shehzadey......

I have also consistently argued that Indians know that Pakistan will not resort to nukes, and thus can attack Pakistan at their discretion. They have come to this conclusion when we did not fire back at the sight of Brahmos launch in 2022, so nukes out of question, may be after this current constitutional changes this will change, Indians also don't not like this amendment a bit, perhaps it does reinforce our nuclear posture by giving Munir the nuclear button too.

I have also argued that Indians will only relent when they fear large scale damage, perhaps such that will set them back economically, only then their won't be an 'attack' that galvanizes the Indian blood thirst.....

Exactly, I understand that PAF show restraint in 2019 and even change direction of their bombs (H-4's) at the last moment, but in Sindoor they bomb civilians and killed 40 of them including children, they bomb mosques and we should've gone full in with our retaliation, because now Indians are not afraid to attack Pakistan, they don't care how many soldiers they lose or air craft got hit, they can just lie to their lund bhakts. But for Pakitan we lose civilians, we now had our civilian population bombed by India, and now its only matter of another attack in India, we will back to war. I understand Pakistan is weak, small but there is a difference here that India is hostile to Pakistan, they want to destroy Pakistan and now we have given them everything they need to just bomb Pakistan anytime they seems fit.

 

[Starlord]

 

[Falgrine]

So regarding the Bholari strike, I had opined about three distinct possibilities here:

Post in thread 'PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll'

May 16, 2026

Why a AWAC was Stationed so near the enemy Border- and why AIR DEFENCE failed here - what’s lecture for future?

The way SAAB2000 was targeted, there could be one of the three possibilities:

1. Indians had been tracking that particular a/c and exactly knew where it landed prior to the strike. There was this confusion regarding the cessation of hostilities and PAF was caught off guard. The enemy could track the plane right up to the hanger where it was parked, either through the almost real time satellite imagery from their own birds in the space or guessed the parking location once...

• Falgrine

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After listening to this certain AM Kapoor here:

it seems that it was a case of an educated guess hitting its mark i.e. the first possibility I tried to hint on.

Earlier in the same podcast, the AM rightfully did not accept the claim for the much propagandized SAAB2000 kill by the S400. While it is true that the missile was launched at the 3 Sqn guys flying at the very edge of the S400 envelope, they detected the launch well in time and dived down to run. Could have been tricky if the corrective action was taken a bit later.

The point is that according to the Indian AM, they could gather data on and study the PAF AEWC a/c and it was not much left to the blind guess work after they saw that particular a/c landing at Bholari.

This makes me intrigued about the following:

1. Its seemed that PAF decision makers took the Indian ceasefire acceptance on the face value. The SAAB2000 was flown into the Bholari while it sits so near (in relative terms) to the border. Given the fluid situation, why such a risky stand down was authorized at that time and location. PAF knew the Brahmos range so why 3 Sqn guys were diverted there.

2. You have redundancies in the infrastructure built to avoid this very scenario. Apparently there was only one hanger and once Indians had tracked the SAB2000 down to the Bholari AFB, they just had to wait for the plane to get inside it and then lob their Brahmoses. Had there been a few more such infrastructures (large hangers) or better, a few larger hardened/underground pens for HVAA, the risk of what happened could have been drastically curtailed.


3. Was the flight profile and EMCON discipline of the SAAB2000 crew really up to the mark. SAAB is a bigger a/c and on the active sensors it would have appeared quite easily. InAF Passive sensors could have picked the emissions from an even longer distance. Shouldn't the EriEye crew have flown fly low well before coming to land at Bholari and followed a complete electronic silence. Would it have still been detected. Do the Indians even have an OTH radar coverage.

 

[Yasser76]

So regarding the Bholari strike, I had opined about three distinct possibilities here:

Post in thread 'PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll'

May 16, 2026

Why a AWAC was Stationed so near the enemy Border- and why AIR DEFENCE failed here - what’s lecture for future?

The way SAAB2000 was targeted, there could be one of the three possibilities:

1. Indians had been tracking that particular a/c and exactly knew where it landed prior to the strike. There was this confusion regarding the cessation of hostilities and PAF was caught off guard. The enemy could track the plane right up to the hanger where it was parked, either through the almost real time satellite imagery from their own birds in the space or guessed the parking location once...

• Falgrine

• 
• 

After listening to this certain AM Kapoor here:

it seems it was the case of an educated guess hitting its mark i.e. the first possibility I tried to hint on.

Earlier in the same podcast, the AM rightfully did not take claim the much propagandized SAAB2000 kill by the S400. While it is true that the missile was launched by the 3 Sqn guys flying on the very edge of the S400 envelope detected the launch well in time and dived down to run. Could have been tricky if the corrective action was taken a bit later.

The point is that according to the Indian AM, they could gather data on and study the PAF AEWC a/c and it was not much left to the guess work after they saw that particular a/c landing at Bholari.

This makes me intrigued about the following:

1. Its seemed that PAF decision makers took the Indian ceasefire acceptance on the face value. The SAAB2000 was flown into the Bholari while it sits so near (in relative terms) to the border. Given the fluid situation, why such a risky stand down was authorized at that time and location. PAF knew the Brahmos range so why 3 Sqn guys were diverted there.

2. You have redundancies in the infrastructure to avoid this very scenario. Apparently there was only one hanger and once Indians had tracked the SAB2000 down to the Bholari, they just had to wait for the plane to get inside there and then lob their Brahmos. Had there been a few more such infrastructures (large hangers) or hardened/underground pens for HVAA, the risk of what happened would have been drastically curtailed.

3. Was the flight profile and EMCON discpline of the SAAB2000 crew really up to the mark. SAAB is a bigger a/c and on the active sensors it would have appeared quite easily. InAF Passive sensors could have picked the emissions from an even longer distance. Shouldn't the EriEye crew have flown fly low well before coming to land at Bholari and followed complete electronic silence. Would it have still been detected. Do the Indians have OTH radar coverage.

Why are we disseninating Indian propaganda that has been debaunked over a year ago?

 

[Yasser76]

When I say something here, its because I might know a thing or two.
Enough said.

I dont think you do mate, posting Indian wet dreams, "Some Indian AF guy claimed in a podcast" is a low bar, a Youtube channel hosted by two of the biggest exponants of Indian military propaganda.

Yeah, you do you....

 

[Yasser76]

Sure man, you know it all.
Who am I to say otherwise

Never say I knew it all, just unsure why you are taking the word of Indian bullshit artists as gospel....