Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

It was all captured on some business/factory's CCTV. It hit a powerline and did actually explode but luckily it was right on the wall of an empty plot. Either 'soft-kill' or malfunction.

So plenty of Indian missiles simply never hit anything despite getting through.


I tink that AVM Aurangzeb guy should have presented it within same month of May. All aircraft wreck evidences were already available widely on twitter by then. Even the MiG-29 wreckage which was uploaded slightly later.

Khawaja Asif should have also given a better response than 'it's all over social media' . While that was technically correct would it have killed him to explain that the actual videos of the wrecks are widely available on the net and can be easily identified with basic analysis of parts.
i did not know that i just heard a big explosion type sound.
 
It was all captured on some business/factory's CCTV. It hit a powerline and did actually explode but luckily it was right on the wall of an empty plot. Either 'soft-kill' or malfunction.

So plenty of Indian missiles simply never hit anything despite getting through.


I tink that AVM Aurangzeb guy should have presented it within same month of May. All aircraft wreck evidences were already available widely on twitter by then. Even the MiG-29 wreckage which was uploaded slightly later.

Khawaja Asif should have also given a better response than 'it's all over social media' . While that was technically correct would it have killed him to explain that the actual videos of the wrecks are widely available on the net and can be easily identified with basic analysis of parts.
Even today, if DG ISPR brings these videos and images to an official press conference as evidence, instead of presenting an AI-generated video like fizaon ke pasban, Indian Air Force and government could officially respond.
 
Why is DG ISPR of Pakistan not showing these videos in its official press conferences? If DG ISPR can present these videos in an official press conference, then Indian Air Force can also address them in an official press conference.

Just like the edited Indian media clips and AMRAA video game clips presented by DG ISPR and Pakistani government were later debunked by Indian government and Indian media, it is simply not practical to fact-check every single video circulating on the internet individually.

If DG ISPR officially presents these videos as evidence, then Indian government agencies and major media organizations can investigate and fact-check them properly. They have the tools and resources to analyze where a video originated, identify where it was first uploaded, investigate the people and location shown in it, and determine whether it is genuine or AI-generated.

If it is a genuine recording, they can potentially establish when and where it was recorded, trace its original source, examine the device and metadata associated with it, and determine whether the footage was professionally edited and, if so, how it was edited.

if Pakistan's military leadership wants to present these videos as official evidence, it should put them on the official record. Once that happens, Indian government and major media organizations can subject them to proper forensic and independent verification rather than trying to chase every random video circulating online.
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Don’t you think this alleged Rafale M88 engine wreckage should be presented as evidence in an official DG ISPR press conference?

What could be stronger evidence of a Rafale being downed than showing the actual wreckage of its M88 engine lying on the ground? If DG ISPR does that, Indian Air Force will be forced to acknowledge the loss, and it will shut the mouths of us Indians as well.
 
Why is DG ISPR of Pakistan not showing these videos in its official press conferences? If DG ISPR can present these videos in an official press conference, then Indian Air Force can also address them in an official press conference.

Just like the edited Indian media clips and AMRAA video game clips presented by DG ISPR and Pakistani government were later debunked by Indian government and Indian media, it is simply not practical to fact-check every single video circulating on the internet individually.

If DG ISPR officially presents these videos as evidence, then Indian government agencies and major media organizations can investigate and fact-check them properly. They have the tools and resources to analyze where a video originated, identify where it was first uploaded, investigate the people and location shown in it, and determine whether it is genuine or AI-generated.

If it is a genuine recording, they can potentially establish when and where it was recorded, trace its original source, examine the device and metadata associated with it, and determine whether the footage was professionally edited and, if so, how it was edited.

if Pakistan's military leadership wants to present these videos as official evidence, it should put them on the official record. Once that happens, Indian government and major media organizations can subject them to proper forensic and independent verification rather than trying to chase every random video circulating online.
Cute...

Perhaps one should ask why your Tri-Service didn't mention anything about IAF "Kills" against the PAF - in the first, second or third Press Conferences.

If memory serves, Sleepy Joe (out going Air Chief) casually brought it up at some seminar in Pune - 4-5 Months later & then again 2-3 Months after that he just boosting the numbers higher.

Your own Air Marshal AK Bhattia stated that, "Losses are part of War" to a question asked by the media. He also said that he couldn't talk about it as the Operation (Sindoor) was still in progress.

I guess all that was laid to rest when CDS Anil Chuhan took that trip to Singapore & accidently blurred out, "...why THEY were going down".

Q. Why did it take the Gov't of India an entire Year to reveal the loss of life?

We mentioned the names & photos on the same day of the incident.

As for your claim on the videos...

...atleast we have the ones taken by your own on ground.

All you have are photos taken from Space - looking straight down.

Your so-called experts on NDTV, India Today with their desi sound effects & graphics were able to see through a damaged hanger in Bholari. They could actually see a destroyed AWAC.

7-8 Months later, the same experts were able to prove God knows how many F-16 were destroyed.

If PAF does an inventory check of our Vipers & AWAC, will you do the same for your Rafales...? You Game...

I mean, i'm still confused as to why the IAF removed the Tail Numbers off only their Rafale fleet. Not the other jets like the Su-30MKi, Mirage 2000, Jags etc. Only Rafales.

#Why?

Welcome Back to [PDF] - you Multi-ID Rat.

@Musings
 
Even today, if DG ISPR brings these videos and images to an official press conference as evidence, instead of presenting an AI-generated video like fizaon ke pasban, Indian Air Force and government could officially respond.

Which banned ID are you?
 
Don’t you think this alleged Rafale M88 engine wreckage should be presented as evidence in an official DG ISPR press conference?

What could be stronger evidence of a Rafale being downed than showing the actual wreckage of its M88 engine lying on the ground? If DG ISPR does that, Indian Air Force will be forced to acknowledge the loss, and it will shut the mouths of us Indians as well.
LOL nice try, but this won't murky the grounds. IAF losses of 7th are well known, with video evidence available, and sheepish official confirmations. IAF is so embarrassed that they refused to acknowledge how many by saying absurdities like 'Sindoor on pause'. That is how deep a cut IAF received to their ego......
 
Don’t you think this alleged Rafale M88 engine wreckage should be presented as evidence in an official DG ISPR press conference?

What could be stronger evidence of a Rafale being downed than showing the actual wreckage of its M88 engine lying on the ground? If DG ISPR does that, Indian Air Force will be forced to acknowledge the loss, and it will shut the mouths of us Indians as well.
Someone actually died. Show some friggin respect.

 
Don’t you think this alleged Rafale M88 engine wreckage should be presented as evidence in an official DG ISPR press conference?

What could be stronger evidence of a Rafale being downed than showing the actual wreckage of its M88 engine lying on the ground? If DG ISPR does that, Indian Air Force will be forced to acknowledge the loss, and it will shut the mouths of us Indians as well.
actually these mouths aren't designed to shut ...
we should focus on instant evidence collection in op sindoor 2.0 to properly shut these mouth
 
Even today, if DG ISPR brings these videos and images to an official press conference as evidence, instead of presenting an AI-generated video like fizaon ke pasban, Indian Air Force and government could officially respond.
First of all DG-ISPR or ISPR aren't incharge of what PAF-PR releases, especially when it comes to Promotional Videos like that 'Fizaon kay Pasban'.

I too am not a fan of Ai material in our videos & have conveyed the message through (too), but the person incharge seems to be a huge fan of Ai crap.

Regardless, please don't confuse or bring in music videos as evidence. That seems a bit desperate.

I know you've come back - regenerated as a New Member, but I think you're just attempting to play this game all over again.

Look, you'll have better luck selling your narritive to your buddies down at Jerkoff Land - a.k.a DFB.jpg .
 
Since i've been Banned on Indian Air Force News and Discussions ll , I thought i'd do the honors of posting the news here, 'cause...

a. Its related to (future) Ops. Sindoor 2.0
b. No one has posted it on that Thread - even the Indian Members. Which is kinda sad 'cause its INDIAN AIR FORCE NEWS 🤦‍♂️ .

Air Marshal Ashutosh Dixit appointed new Chief of Indian Air Force

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Well, looks like Sleepy Joe (Amar Preet Singh) can finally do the one thing he excels at...

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Don’t you think this alleged Rafale M88 engine wreckage should be presented as evidence in an official DG ISPR press conference?

What could be stronger evidence of a Rafale being downed than showing the actual wreckage of its M88 engine lying on the ground? If DG ISPR does that, Indian Air Force will be forced to acknowledge the loss, and it will shut the mouths of us Indians as well.
Your own media reported at least 5 IAF jets down on the 7th and then quickly withdrew those reports under pressure from your shameless Govt but those reports are still available to see, if you want to look that is. Contrary to your comment Indian Air Force will not be forced to respond to anything because the only choices they have is tell shameless lies like your AC or accept the humiliating truth. That is why you got none commital BS like ‘losses are part of war’, ‘I cannot confirm because operation is ongoing’, ‘The question is not how many but why they were downed’ - that last one was your DGMO no less!!! ‘At least 1 Ra-fail shot down was independently confirmed by multiple neutral sources—-So please explain what the f are flat earther Indian’s like you trying to prove???
 
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Let’s make it very simple for shameless flat earthers trying desperately to rewrite history - Indian DGMO was asked by a reporter, how many IAF jets were shot, he DID NOT say ‘none’ — he said ‘the number does not matter, the reason matters’
When IAF officials were asked point blank if the reports of IAF jets down including Ra-fail were correct they did not deny the reports and instead said ‘losses are part of war’ and ‘I cannot confirm because operation is ongoing’
The only people who cannot accept what that clearly and without any doubt means is those for who the meaning is too painful to accept. For them, I have simple advice, instead of humiliating yourself further go find a pool of stagnant water, end your misery & do us all a favour.
 

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