Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Blueishere]

You cannot afford anything else - however - other behind the scenes actions have been taken in Pakistan and beyond it that have cut India's ambitions with the humble knife.

What BTS actions?

 

[Oscar]

Not this time, we 'have' to hit mainlaind India since they have violated International boundary. Quid pro quo+ won't be satisfied without that

Quid pro quo public - and quid pro quo private are two different things.

 

[Salza]

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[Vi-va]

Probably the most concrete source, coupled with Aditya Raj himself

Shockingly bad from IAF, as expected by PAF.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/three-fighter-jets-crashed-indias-jammu-kashmir-local-govt-sources-say-2025-05-07/

 

[PakFactor]

Expect disappointment if you are looking for some major response.
The measured has been given, lives for lives taken back in multiples along LoC.
It is enough to offer a de-escalation ladder to India.

This is possibly the only time I have ever disagreed with you respectfully. What has been given to India is not enough; the Indians need to be hit harder, even at the cost of their civilian lives, to send a message, or we will be stuck in this repetitive cycle.

 

[Oscar]

So in 5 years we'll all be back here when India does the same thing again?

That is upto Pakistani leadership and how it's people go from this event from an accountability perspective.

The military - from a "doing its job" in the moment perspective as an organization performed decently.. so far.

 

[arjunk]

I think this is a good point for both sides to stop.

Indians can claim they targeted 'terrorist' sites. Pakistan can claim we shot down 5 Indian jets.

Both sides can claim victory, hold their head high, and move on.

Nope. That would be a strategic victory for India.

IAF can afford to lose a few aircraft. India will deny their loss and delusional Indians will be emboldened to attack even more civilian targets inside Pakistan.

A strike deep inside mainland India signifies to the world that India is not Israel and Pakistan is not Gaza.

A strike deep inside India signifies to the world that Pakistan is NOT some cucked arab state who tolerates the deaths of its civilians at the hands of rapist hindu terrorists.

Learn from the Arabs and Iranians, whose half-hearted pu$$y responses emboldened Israel to go for the K.O

 

[Oscar]

This is possibly the only time I have ever disagreed with you respectfully. What has been given to India is not enough; the Indians need to be hit harder, even at the cost of their civilian lives, to send a message, or we will be stuck in this repetitive cycle.

Need - Want - can

 

[White Privilege]

Quid pro quo public - and quid pro quo private are two different things.

Open retaliation across the international boundary is non negotiable this time. We won't re-establish deterrence without that.

 

[Oscar]

Open retaliation across the international boundary is non negotiable this time. We won't re-establish deterrence without that.

Everything is negotiable - all is fair in love and war.

 

[arjunk]

Nope. That would be a strategic victory for India.

IAF can afford to lose a few aircraft. India will deny their loss and delusional Indians will be emboldened to attack even more civilian targets inside Pakistan.

A strike deep inside mainland India signifies to the world that India is not Israel and Pakistan is not Gaza.

A strike deep inside India signifies to the world that Pakistan is NOT some cucked arab state who tolerates the deaths of its civilians at the hands of rapist hindu terrorists.

Learn from the Arabs and Iranians, whose half-hearted pu$$y responses emboldened Israel to go for the K.O

The current IAF losses are not a response by PAF, but merely India incurring casualties by launching an attack on Pakistan.

 

[Kharral]

No way, Pakistan will instantly lose on diplomatic end and get shunned by the whole world if they attack a Dam. It cannot be done unless all legal and diplomatic means are exhausted.

Indian Airfields should be a legitimate target though. Pak should move all their planes to highways and take out Pathankot at least.

Eff the diplomatic world, when an opportunity presents itself then use it. Make the point now. This is part of diplomacy too.

 

[RazPaK]

Concussion>bloody nose

Stronger deterrent is obviously required after extracting revenge

 

[Goenitz]

I just find it extremely funny how Indians of all people, Indians ask for evidence acting as if they are extremely objective people, never swayed by what anyone says but the evidence they bring to the table.

1. Your government without any evidence just launched missile strikes on a nuclear armed nation, Where was your call for evidence then?

2. Christina Fair, we all know where her leanings are, she -- infront of Indian high ranking officials, a program which is still on youtube, she categorically denied the claims of your airforce and basically called you liars to your face. Did you ask your airforce for the evidence of their claims ?

3. For now there have been videos circulating as well as international news agencies like the reuters that have asked YOUR people to comment and they have accepted the loss of material in shape of a few jets .. and your still like .. Where is the evidence?

welcome back man..
@MastanKhan and @imrankhan are left

 

[Starlord]

You cannot afford anything else - however - other behind the scenes actions have been taken in Pakistan and beyond it that have cut India's ambitions with the humble knife.

How come we can not afford ? if you compare this with 2019, India formations lunch bombs and escape, Pakistan response was nothing the night of Balakot, understandably so because 1)chasing their strike package could mean PAF caps would get ambushed, 2)Have to wait for the damage assessment.
Now this incident is different because India hit Mosques in densely populated area, 24 strikes on 3-4 targets, 8-15 people died as result.
This time we chase them, and saw the whole action unfold during the night, now ISPR said there will be a respond at time of our choosing, I don't think that ISPR second press conf claim the whole action on previous night as " Response " that they claim, so will they backtrack from their statement? we'll have to wait and see.