Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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[hydrabadi_arab]

India accept 4 Jets down.

 

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Videos from Poonch, claiming they are still hearing Airstrikes. and this is not some vague social media post, this has been posted by LiveUMap. So Pakistan is also definitely onto something, even as of now. I guess we will get to know more and more in the coming hours and days.

 

[Venom]

India accept 4 Jets down.

Post the source as well please!

 

[abdulbarijan]

That just fell from the pylon due to faulty screws.

If we go by this, Abhinandan also fell due to some faulty screws.

 

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[Tamerlane]

Israel has destroyed all the mosques and hospitals in Gaza under the pretense of targeting terrorists.

If we let India get away with bombing mosques in Pakistan then no mosque in South Asia will be safe.

Pakistan must hit Hindutva terror sites, like RSS headquarters.

 

[Goenitz]

Hmm, I remember Hitler made similar plans. And we all know how that ended.

I think Katju is sarcastic here. He is just expanding what Bhakts are thinking right now.

 

[LeGenD]

The scale of strikes inside Pakistan is surprising and a gross violation of Pakistani sovereignity. Education sector and offices closed, businesses affected. India affecting water supply too. Bad times.

Nevertheless, the PAF deserve praise for its efforts to protect Pakistan. Highly professional, capable, and best equipped to handle Indian threats among all armed branches. Pakistan's investment in the PAF paying off.

 

[Starlord]

Because right when they hit it they handed over dossiers claiming all these locations were terrorist hideouts - linking to internationally declared terrorist orgs - and in it claimed they did their best by using small munitions to avoid civilian causalities.

They had additional targets - and as they tried to force in have been brought down in the process. Then they pivoted to thinking of activating cold start but without the ability to push PAF out are nervous about launching their strike corps on just SAM cover.

If you hit them - they will disregard caution and this goes well beyond this and their numbers ensure that they will prevail in places while you hold them in others.
Both sides bleed but they have a lot more sustaining resources than you.

So either you will cave then, or launch nukes - either way the calculus is bad but there is a mix of hawkish egos on both sides along with wanting a face saving withdrawal which everyone including all your allies are pushing.

Any war or skirmish is done to achieve a objective, which often leads to either peace of further escalations, with doing nothing we will achieve nothing.
If Indians are hinting towards a full scale war in case of Pakistan's response than why would we take their bluff at face value ? a bluff can be just a bluff, given we see that India is no position to achieve Air superiority over Pakistan's air space, even if the war prolonged they won't be able to push deep. But in a escalation at least we will see some major treaties and agreements that will be signed by both sides, that could then result in lasting peace, Indians think Pakistan is weak and can not defend itself, Indians can just roll over every time a attack happen, you let them get through with this without repercussion and you are setting a dangerous trend, If last night action is what Pakistan Govt/Army see as some sort of Victory than sorry they have to get back to dictionary.

 

[Oscar]

If we go by this, Abhinandan also fell due to some faulty screws.

Apparently IAF lost 3 jets which they have publicly accepted - due to faulty screws. According to this spokesperson then all the PAF has to do is just wait it out and IAF will potentially remove itself from the equation due to various faulty screws.

 

[Oscar]

The scale of strikes inside Pakistan is surprising and a gross violation of Pakistani sovereignity. Education sector and offices closed, businesses affected. India affecting water supply too. Bad times.

Nevertheless, the PAF deserve praise for its efforts to protect Pakistan. Highly professional, capable, and best equipped to handle Indian threats among all armed branches. Pakistan's investment in the PAF paying off.

Unfortunately, this is being missed and soon its impact will be felt by Pakistanis when water shortages lead to food shortages and so on.

 

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[guangdongt]

This conflict is of great significance to China's weapon development and equipment production, collecting data on the opponent's attack missiles and developing targeted products. On the other hand, it also confirms the counterattack value of Chinese products. I have to say that Modi's arrogant behavior towards China is no different from Nehru's back then

 

[White Privilege]

Ball is in Pakistan's court. I think Indians would pull back their air force and spam the front with all the AD they have for the next 24 hours, to avoid another Abhinondone. Pakistan would be better served to hit some big command bunker causing high ranking casualties in response to civilian deaths.