Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Apparently IAF lost 3 jets which they have publicly accepted - due to faulty screws. According to this spokesperson then all the PAF has to do is just wait it out and IAF will potentially remove itself from the equation due to various faulty screws.
Lmao, bro, this is epic.
 
Unfortunately, this is being missed and soon its impact will be felt by Pakistanis when water shortages lead to food shortages and so on.

India cannot stop even 1% of water till they build something in 10 years. Plenty of time.
 
Because right when they hit it they handed over dossiers claiming all these locations were terrorist hideouts - linking to internationally declared terrorist orgs - and in it claimed they did their best by using small munitions to avoid civilian causalities.

They had additional targets - and as they tried to force in have been brought down in the process. Then they pivoted to thinking of activating cold start but without the ability to push PAF out are nervous about launching their strike corps on just SAM cover.

If you hit them - they will disregard caution and this goes well beyond this and their numbers ensure that they will prevail in places while you hold them in others.
Both sides bleed but they have a lot more sustaining resources than you.

So either you will cave then, or launch nukes - either way the calculus is bad but there is a mix of hawkish egos on both sides along with wanting a face saving withdrawal which everyone including all your allies are pushing.
If PAF maintains an edge over IAF for just a couple of weeks, the momentum of Indian strike Corps can be halted, and a few counteroffensives launched in other sectors.

Beyond two weeks or so, yes, it will go nuclear, or the international community will intervene to stop it before this point.
 
Any war or skirmish is done to achieve a objective, which often leads to either peace of further escalations, with doing nothing we will achieve nothing.
If Indians are hinting towards a full scale war in case of Pakistan's response than why would we take their bluff at face value ? a bluff can be just a bluff, given we see that India is no position to achieve Air superiority over Pakistan's air space, even if the war prolonged they won't be able to push deep. But in a escalation at least we will see some major treaties and agreements that will be signed by both sides, that could then result in lasting peace, Indians think Pakistan is weak and can not defend itself, Indians can just roll over every time a attack happen, you let them get through with this without repercussion and you are setting a dangerous trend, If last night action is what Pakistan Govt/Army see as some sort of Victory than sorry they have to get back to dictionary.
Because you are looking at it from one dimension and that too opaquely.

There are SEVERAL dimensions to this conflict happening on a miliatary, resource, economic, diplomatic level that go well beyond the last 15 days and go well years into the future based on Pakistan's economic, diplomatic, social, internal security and military aspects.

Please dont forget that 70% of the Balochi population is now hostile to any state employee or asset along with any Punjabi. KP is now getting a hostile population approaching double digits. Your political landscape is a banana joke and people do not have faith in the current leadership or any leadership for that matter.

That does not mean a large percentage of the Punjab Sindh belt and a large percentage of KP wont stand behind their fighting men - but this is the WORST time for Pakistan to face this crisis and PRECISECLY why India chose this moment - except that it was expecting a cake walk and instead has badly cut hand and leg.
 
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Here, Direct Reports from Indian Media now. I'm sure India will claim that all of them developed technical faults all together, in the last few hours
Indians have confirmed three in kashmir

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One in Punjab

So yeah four confirmed by indians
Now imagine the nonsense if India claims that all of then developed 'Technical Faults' in a single night. Though I can expect it from them.
 
If PAF maintains an edge over IAF for just a couple of weeks, the momentum of Indian strike Corps can be halted, and a few counteroffensives launched in other sectors.

Beyond two weeks or so, yes, it will go nuclear, or the international community will intervene to stop it before this point.
Perhaps, good point.

Though, nuclear exchange highly unlikely. Pakistan and India have numerous conventional options.
 
Unfortunately, this is being missed and soon its impact will be felt by Pakistanis when water shortages lead to food shortages and so on.
India really has checked Pakistan, all thats left is the mate. Pakistan has never been in a situation like this before, it has no other options except to either cease to India and its demands or to fight it head on, because to be completely honest no International body is going to enforce the IWT, we have seen Gaza, we've seen Ukraine. This is literally a lose-lose
 
Three in IoK

One in Punjab

So four are confirmed
According to Indians here - all fell due to faulty screws -

According to certain critics(who claim to be Pakistani) for the sake of critics - only two Indian jets are lost and Indians are lying about losing their own jets.
 

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