Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

At least proven it's not a super duper alien tech with active stealth that can easily kill J20 as per Indian claimed, it's just another 4.5th gen that can be shot down by a rival 4.5th gen fighter from the Eastern manufacturer.
If you give a longbow to a badly trained or unskilled peasant,he might take down a duck or a chicken. If you give a longbow to a skilled and well-trained soldier,he can take down a knight with it. Pardon my medieval analogy.
 
NY Times topmost story. The world will notice this story: NY Times is not a friend of Pakistan--but lately also not a friend of Modi.


India said early Wednesday that it had conducted several airstrikes on Pakistan, hailing a victory in the name of vengeance for the terrorist attack that killed 26 civilians in Kashmir last month.

But evidence was also growing that the Indian forces may have taken heavy losses during the operation. At least two aircraft were said to have gone down in India and the Indian-controlled side of Kashmir, according to three officials, local news reports, and accounts of witnesses who had seen the debris of two.
 
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Pakistan's narrative is very clear, we will attack their combatants and Army. We never had and nor will have a narrative of attacking civilians. How will you filter out who is a 'Hindutva Dog' before attacking any civilian place ?

In any case,, its not upto you. Our army is well aware of Military codes of conduct and will take care of it appropriately. You will not see them attacking civilians. Me trying to convince you is pointless.
I think you misunderstood, I didn’t advocate for attacking civilians
 
What's with *restore pride"

Enemy destroying sanctity of the nation state and our borders. Its absolutely tarnishing the sovereign state that enemy comes and murder your citizens in front of whole world. and you want to know pride ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS ??

PAKISTAN will never be able to restore our pride if we are unable to strike deep inside india in the same manner they did. Its not even difficult to understand!
 
If you give a longbow to a badly trained or unskilled peasant,he might take down a duck or a chicken. If you give a longbow to a skilled and well-trained soldier,he can take down a knight with it. Pardon my medieval analogy.
well, J10C scored a kill or even multiple kills, this is all we know right now, maybe Rafale can prove herself somewhere else by scoring an aerial kill, that is another case.
 
MaChoodow Ko Full Danda Dou. The nation wants their major cities targeted. ANything less is not acceptable......

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Of course you're burning, haha.
Abid,you can't be that retarded or biased. Or can you?

These people have crashed about half of their Mig-21s. They had crashed 11 Su-30s on their own by June 2024. They could lose 3 Mig-29s per year. They crashed all kinds of helicopters. They crashed their superweapon Tejas.
 
26 people died in Pakistan. Mothers, sisters, brothers, fathers..

And some of you guys are saying Pakistan should be happy with the status quo and de-escalate.

De escalation from here means being ok with the status quo. Meaning IB is fair game for India to strike deep inside Pakistan.

Get off your trolling mode and delving into whether 4 or 5 IAF jets were downed.

Look at the BIGGER picture.
 
Are you seriously blaming the French and the Rafale for the Indians' performance?

I heard France is offering to buy back all the Rafales from India -- at double price -- to avoid any further embarassment.

Indians claim this was the plan all along - to get a 100% return on investment.
 
Come on dude, we're better than those that wish the deaths of innocents.
Don't let the Indian inhumanity shred away your own.
maybe thats our weakness ever thought that way?
Mercy and things like that of softness only work on those who dont see yr kindness as weakness. This is Asia buddy, here kindness is seen as a sign of weakness we are afterall dealing with pagans here not with Christians.
Due to the teachings of Prophet Issa AS Christians are the only ones who dont see kindness and mercy as a sign of weakness(Doesn't Quran also defines Christians as soft hearted people? thats due to the teachings of Prophet Issa AS on them. Hence why you see them always going for enchanting slogans like Human Rights, Peace no war, or old slogans like make love not war, Turning the other cheek etc). Thats why when we used to show that to them in Afghanistan, it wasnt used to seen as a sign of weakness by them. Wasnt their supplies used to go through Pakistan?
Now imagine doing the same for Indians not be seen as a sign of weakness! just look at what happened in CT 2025 earlier this year?

You my friend probably havnt still came out of the mod of how we used to deal with Christians in Afghanistan. With Hindus ie pagans that never works.

I suggest you to come out of this mod as we are now dealing with India not Afghanistan or Iran even or even with Christians anymore.
 
So true, if it was less one sided then IAF may have been able to learn lessons here, but if 5 jets were blown out of the sky suddenly without knowing they will struggle to initiate any lessons
Basically, they've to start a fresh IAF from the scratch. They need a 100% change. It itself means 100s of billions of $s and years after years. Bharat has lost the conventional air power vis-a-vis Pakistan.....
 

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